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“Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on Earth as it is in heaven …” These are the opening lines of The Lord’s Prayer. Known by many by rote, this prayer is indeed used for a variety of purposes: a prayer of petition, prayed in response to penance as an act of contrition and prayed at a pivotal point during the celebration of the mass.
These many uses of the prayer lead me to believe that few, if any, prayer is said so often by so many. It is cause for both reflection and inspiration. Sometimes however, as we become accustomed to something, we may have a tendency to overlook the sentiments attached, so that we don’t continuously and sincerely comprehend the true potential of the petition. I believe it is safe say, when we pray “thy will be done, on Earth as it is in heaven” — even praying this in reverence and faith — we are not ready for what that would truly look like.
The Grand Valley experienced a glimpse of it recently. Through “Sharefest,” nearly 25 percent of the local churches participated in an outpouring of God’s will, joining together in servanthood to their fellow man.
As a result of Sharefest, a real embodiment of the Spirit, neighborhoods got adopted, yards got cleaned, decks got built, handicap ramps got installed, houses got painted, weeds got pulled and houses got fixed. These are just a few of the 250-plus projects worked on by upwards to 2,000 volunteers.
Along with the projects came donations from owners and managers of hundreds of businesses, giving an estimated $250,000, in materials, supplies, tools and equipment.
It was a joyous explosion of energy all drawn from a faith in one born and resurrected some 2,000 years ago — Jesus Christ, one who distilled the commandments to these; Love God and Love thy Neighbor.
How better to live into that, than to unselfishly and joyfully go out and serve those you know and those whom you did not, with love and tenderness?
It was a miracle of purpose, and many blessings were indeed experienced by all involved. These neighbors of ours, who, by virtue of their acts of kindness and servitude gave us all a glimpse of what we have been praying for all these years, and that is a bit of God’s glory, On Earth as it is in Heaven.
DARIN CAREI
The Faith Foundation
Of Grand Junction
55 Responses to “‘Sharefest’ was an outpouring of God’s will”
Posted April 23rd, 2008 at 8:52 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Amen.
Posted April 23rd, 2008 at 1:55 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
So which projects did God help out with?
I see a lot was done by those who follow him, which is great but what did he do himself? What part of this was done supernaturally?
Posted April 23rd, 2008 at 2:37 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
Sometimes it amazes me the poison that spills from some people.
In answer to your question, He helped with them all.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 6:34 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Poison? I’m just asking a simple question.
Which projects couldn’t have been done without his help?
If this had been organized by a non-religious group, could any of these projects not been done?
Why does god continually get the credit for things that people do?
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 7:04 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
I can answer that one.
NONE of the projects could have been completed with God, because without God nobody would have stepped forward and done the things that needed to be done.
Unless you can find an atheist organization that was in on this lousy Christian scheme.
Or any other, ‘non-religious’ group.
While you are looking for one, keep in mind that the Lions Club, Rotarians, Elks, Moose, etc all have a prayer segment in their business dealings.
Uh, Scott, which project did you help out on?
Or are you just here to question something that surrounds you on a daily basis, but you choose not to see?
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 7:19 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Frankly, I think Christians going out and actually doing the things that Christ talked about doing is pretty cool, regardless of whether I agree with their views. I’d much rather see Churches doing this kind of thing than picketing funerals, wouldn’t you? They did a lot good things, so, good for them! If they want to give credit to God, what’s wrong with that? Freedom of Religion is a two-way street. Live and let live, Scott. They ain’t bothering you. A bunch of people painting houses and pulling weeds is not something to get upset about.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 8:16 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Thanks, Willis and Curmudgeon, for your defense
I love it that there are people willing to step out and give their time to help others in need. And it makes me crazy that others feel compelled to question everything we (Christians) do simply because we give thanks and recognition to God. Share Fest was a GOOD thing, it helped hundreds of people, many of them seniors who had no one in their own familes who cared to help. I pray there are many, many more opportunities for Christians or non-Christians to get together and help those in need again.
In answer to the question I suspect Scott has on his mind, my church participated in Share Fest, I, unfortunately did not. Our family had other obligations last weekend so we were unable to. We have, however, participated in similar “events”. We do it because we believe that we should give back to our community, not because we need brownie points or recognition.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 8:26 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Exactly, Curmudgeon.
Some of my best friends are Christians, and they are quite harmless.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 8:26 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
It’s kinda like being at an oil change and lube shop, and paying for a Military members oil change and leaving before he/she finds out.
It helps them, for no reason other then who and what they are doing because of what they BELIEVE in.
And it costs me little because it’s what I BELIEVE in.
But people like Scott don’t understand the concept.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 8:32 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
I didn’t say it wasn’t a good thing. It was. I am simply asking what part of it did God do. I realize that it was done in God’s name, I was just pointing out that it was all done by men and women, not the supernatural.
Lots of things have been done in the name of God. He doesn’t really seem interested in helping the “good” things nor does he prevent the “bad” things.
When a plane crashes and a single child survives, all you hear about is how God was looking out for that child. Apparently he couldn’t do the same for the rest of the people on the plane, but you never hear anyone question that. God gets all the credit for the good things, but yet never blamed for the bad things that he is also responsible for.
Just one of the things that made me give up religion. A “good” god would not be so inconsistant.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 8:33 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Willis,
Sure I do. I just don’t attribute it to God. I don’t need the supernatural to tell me what to do and what not to do. Some people apparently do.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 8:54 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
You know, Scott, we’re all free to believe (or not believe) what we want; my point is, why go out of your way to rain on their parade? It’s not like they’re knocking on your door, bothering you….you wouldn’t want someone giving you grief for your beliefs (or lack of them), right? If you had printed a letter expressing pride and gratitude for advance in science, and someone else posted a snarky comment demanding an explanation of how God was NOT a part of it, I imagine you’d be pretty offended, and rightfully so.
Your condescending attitude towards people with faith is just as bad as one of them telling you you’re going to Hell. Or, are you too smart to just live and let live?
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 8:55 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Scott, surely you must know that those who believe in God have struggled with the question of “How can He let bad things happen” for millenia. Some students of theology study this all of their lives. You think you know the answer, fine, but you don’t have to insult other people in the process.
Me, I feel there is beauty in the mystery but I don’t expect, nor would I want everyone else to see it the way I do.
Those who try to push their atheism on other people are just as annoying as those who try to push their religion on other people.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 9:15 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Who is this God person, anyway? Does he/she/it exist? Prove it.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 9:25 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
They can’t, Proteus….that’s why it’s called Faith.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 9:36 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Proteus, are you trying to contribute something to this conversation? If so you better try again, attempt number one failed.
Here’s the deal. There is a minority of highly vocal Christians who would love to point fingers at ALL non-believers and claim we are all “against them.” As an agnostic who is not “against” anyone, it ticks me off when other agnostics and atheists pick on Christians just for the sport of it, because 1. it’s just rude and mean, and 2. it fans the flames of those who are trying very hard to promote the existence of a “War on Christianity.”
I don’t want to be in a position where Christians metaphorically cross to the other side of the street when they see me coming. I’m not interested in being a part of this “war” that some are trying to manufacture. That’s why I want to say to people like Scott, in this case STHU. (The H stands for heck of course :))
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 10:03 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
I’m not attacking anyone. I’m not pushing atheism or anything else. I’m not trying to rain on anyone’s parade, and I’m not picking on anyone.
I asked a simple question. Could these things have been done without God? Obviously, yes they could.
Rather than answer this question however, the majority of the responses have accused me of attacking their faith. If asking simple questions like this is considered to be attacking faith, then perhaps that faith needs to be examined.
The simple fact is that the Sharefest was organized by men and women. The chores were done by men and women. No one forced them to do it. They chose to do it because they believe it was the right thing to do. Does anyone disagree with this? Like it or not, God didn’t lift so much as a screwdriver to help this project out. If you consider mentioning this to be an attack, then I’m sorry.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 10:09 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Ashhugger- The title of the original letter is “Sharefest” was an outpouring of God’s will.” All I’m saying is “how can something be of someone’s ‘will’ if the existence of that ’someone’ has never been proven as fact? I say let the “believers” believe in their faith delusions all they want, just don’t insult the intelligence of rational people by claiming their beliefs are fact. Faith is not fact, faith by definition cannot be fact. The moment anyone declares themselves to be “persons of faith” they are admitting their belief system is part of the supernatural, not rational world. All religious belief systems share the common roots of mythology and superstition. As former Minnesota Gov. Jesse “The Body” Ventura once remarked, “Religion is for losers.”
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 10:13 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Well Scott, it’s not an attack but it is still picky and rude IMO.
A little “Religion 101″ for you … Some people believe God is present in all good things, so that would include good deeds. In fact it’s kind of a basic assumption of Christianity. So yes, many people do believe these things could not be done without God.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 10:15 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
If you didn’t mean to attack, why did you ask the question in the first place? Let me just point out-
Post #2, quote:
“So which projects did God help out with?
I see a lot was done by those who follow him, which is great but what did he do himself? What part of this was done supernaturally?”
Post #11, quote:
“Willis, Sure I do. I just don’t attribute it to God. I don’t need the supernatural to tell me what to do and what not to do. Some people apparently do.”
Surely someone as intelligent as you would not be so disingenuous as to deny the superior tone and condescension of the last post, especially.
Face it, you wanted to show how smart you were, and it backfired; because a lot of us who don’t even agree with those you’re making fun of think you’re being a snarky, superior jerk. Just as some people’s perceived moral superiority does not make them better than you, your perceived superior intelligence does not make you better than them.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 10:21 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Scott - you’re exactly right in your assessment of “Sharefest,” and you certainly don’t need to apologize for your any of your positions and/or opinions. So you may make a few self-righteous “Christians” uncomfortable - they love thinking of themselves as “victims.” (of what, who knows, but “victims” nonetheless.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 10:23 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Proteus, you may be book smart but where is your street sense? How is it productive to call people of faith “delusional” and look down your nose at them? You think they’re all going to say “oh gee, that person is right! How could I have been so stupid!?”
I just don’t see how it insults you or I just because some people accept the existence of God as fact.
Now when they come knocking at my door, they need to go away at the first polite request. And nine out of ten times they do. God help those that don’t.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 10:26 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Acutally, Proteus, I’m a Pagan. Most Christians would gladly tell me I’m gonna fry in Hell; and I still think you and Scott are being smug, snarky, self-satisfied jerks.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 10:28 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Proteus, you just put every Christian in the world in the same little box. I am surprised, I thought you were a person of intelligence, not someone who makes such sweeping and prejudiced generalizations.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 10:40 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Ashhugger - I beg to differ about your contention that I put all Christians in the same little box. We all have our beliefs and delusions, religious or not. In this case, I’m not against Christians, but Christian Fundamentalists (of which there is an overabundance here in the Grand Valley. I believe that religious fundamentalism (which crosses all religions) is the greatest single threat to world order and stability (after food shortages). As it applies to our beloved country, I believe that Christian Fundamentalism is the greatest single threat to our national security. How dare those people tell the rest of us that there is only one way to the afterlife (if it exists ) - their way? And how dare they attempt force society at large to adhere to their outdated and ridiculous moral code? Religion can obviously be used for great evil as well as great good - just look at the mess it’s helped us get into the past eight years under Bush.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 10:44 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
But Proteus….all these people were doing was painting and pulling weeds.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 10:56 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
I don’t see that the original letter writer displayed any self-righteousness, fundamentalism, or anything remotely threatening.
It was simply an exclamation of enthusiasm and joy and faith. It made me smile. I am happy for people who can find such joy in their hearts.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 11:13 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Curmudgeon,
All I was trying to do was ask a simple question and maybe get people to think about something they may not have considered.
I was a Christian for over twenty years, and in my experience questions like these were never considered or encouraged. I don’t believe any position should be held without challenging it, and I just don’t see most Christians as being willing to do that. The responses here seem to be evidence of that.
I’m not trying to be condescending or superior. If I came across that way, I apologize to everyone I offended. All I can do is call it as I see it, and this is how I see it. I’m willing to change my mind, though.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 11:28 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
As a person of faith, I believe you have the right to believe however you choose. And I will not sink to the level of name calling or looking down my nose at you. You don’t believe in God? So be it, that’s your choice. I believe in God. And that is my choice.
I defend the choice of Christians to go out and do good things for our community in the name of God and I would gladly defend anyone else whose choice is to go out and do the same in the name of unity or atheism or agnosticism or by any other name you choose. I would applaud the efforts of anyone who gives of themselves in order to help others. I also hope I would have the good sense to put a shackle on any part of my tongue (or fingers as I type) so I don’t say or type anything that is condescending or derogatory. If I don’t, I’m quite sure you, Scott, will jump on the opprotunity to point it out. And if you don’t, I have faith that someone else will
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 11:35 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
ok, short, sweet, and to the point.
The Christians sat back and waited for the other people to do a few good deeds.
Everybody else failed at doing anything, so the Christians acted.
So, how come none of you ‘non-believers’ did a thing to help the needy, other than lip service?
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 11:39 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Scott;
I won’t try to continue any hostility, but I have to point something out again — You said you “don’t believe any position should be held without challenging it”.
Ok, then….I have to ask; What right do you have to inflict that belief on people who were doing absolutely nothing to you? Or is it only ok to push your beliefs on other people when you think it’s right? Do you see where I’m going with this?
If someone comes up and preaches to you, let ‘em have it. But if they’re pulling weeds and building ramps, what do you care what they believe? Better yet, WHY should you care what they believe?
You believe they have to be challenged. Fine. That’s YOUR belief. And you’re entitled to it. My own belief is that if someone isn’t hurting anyone with their beliefs, LEAVE THEM ALONE! The difference between my belief and yours is that I don’t inflict mine on anyone. That’s just how I rock it.
You’re obviously very smart, Scott, and that’s a good thing. If you try and broaden that sharp, analytical mind (I mean that in all sincerity), you might be able to see that a lot of Christians may be “deluded”, in your opinion, but they’re not hurting anyone. Some of them are just trying to be good people.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 12:10 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
Now Willis stating that non-Christians don’t do any good deeds in this community, there’s a load of self righteous you-know-what.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 12:11 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
Thanks again, Curmudgeon, for your defense! And I would never, never tell you that you will burn in Hell… okay, well, maybe I would if you were on your deathbed and I was there and I thought there was a chance that something I said could convince you that you needed saving!
Scott, time for dimestore psychology for a moment if I may be so bold. It sounds like someone has hurt you badly in the past and my guess is it was someone who said they were a Christian. It must have been something pretty bad to make you this bitter toward us all. I’m sorry for whatever wrong was done to you and I hope that you someday can forgive. Yes, that was a very Christian comment but that is “how I rock it” (Thanks, Curm!). And I really, really meant it. I’d tell you I’d pray for you, but I’m thinking that would offend you so I won’t.
I just hope you realize that we’re not all pushy and in your face kind of people… most of us are just normal people trying to live our lives as best as we can… same as you.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 12:21 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
Thanks, Sue. I appreciate the thought. How could I be offended that someone would pray for me?
It’s a big universe. Room for everbody.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 12:26 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
Ashhugger, no BS from this side.
Just a little friendly goring of those who seem inclined to fuss over the fact that the Christians DID SOMETHING NICE, simply because it was the RIGHT THING TO DO.
They didn’t demand payment for jos that they were not to good to do, etc.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 12:31 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
Willis, I understand where you were coming from but when you say:
“So, how come none of you ‘non-believers’ did a thing to help the needy, other than lip service?”
… You’re stating that non-believers (as in non-Christians) do nothing to help the needy. You might choose to believe that, but I know for a fact it is not true.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 12:37 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
as long as they keep their meathooks outta my school & my government, i’m cool with it all. good deeds are good deed, no matter who performs them.
just don’t require me to fund the Bush gov’t-sponsored “faith-based initiatives” and demand that i afford ecclesiastics (and the pope) some special respect.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 12:38 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
Sue,
Where did I point out anyone’s condescending behavior? I didn’t. I just asked a question.
And no, no Christian hurt me. I didn’t choose not to believe any more than you choose to believe you live on planet earth. It was simply a realization that I no longer believed after all the things I had learned - things I was never told as a Christian. I had to go out and learn them for myself. It was quite eye-opening, to say the least.
Curmudgeon,
I wasn’t inflicting my opinion on anyone any more than anyone else was. Freedom of speech, remember? It goes both ways. If someone wants to use a public forum to thank god for all the good they think he does, why can’t I use that same forum to question what he is saying? I didn’t criticize anyone, I just asked why they thought god was doing what they though he was doing. If simply asking a question is hurting their belief, then maybe the belief is the problem, not the question.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 12:41 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
Willis,
You might consider that I personally volunteer with an organization from which I have to hide my personal beliefs, because if they were known I would not be allowed to volunteer there due to reverse religious discrimination. The Christians certainly can’t claim the high moral ground when it comes to volunteering.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 12:54 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
it’s cool Scott - me & Proteus have you covered. be careful or they’ll whip out some catchy bible references or voodoo dolls, next, to bolster their positions. it’s a real flesh-eating crowd here, as you’ve certainly noted….maybe it’s time we all just step outside and fill our lungs with air, and drown ourselves in the beauty & mystery of the natural world under that big blue dome.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 1:00 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
But chancho, you would need to pull your head out into the open with a crosswind so you could have an original thought.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 1:03 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
nonsense, that would only mess up my hair…
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 1:12 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
Oh, Willis, you have such a provincial, inconsequential mind. I bet you still watch reruns of “Leave it to Beaver” and “The Donna Reed Show.”
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 1:26 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
No proteus,
I’m more of a three stooges type, but only for the resemblance.
I see them, I think of the goofy posts from the “smarter than anybody else” crowd, such as yourself.
Then I read the posts here and think of them.
It’s kind of like deja vu all over again.
And then I see the three “top” contenders for the Presidency, and I get real nervous.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 1:29 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
Scott,
My comment was the Christians, as a group, volunteered.
While I admire individuals doing good deeds and volunteering, I’m still waiting for a group of individuals that claim to not be religious, ie: agnostic, atheist, etc to make the news as “volunteering” in the same manner as the Christian community does consistently.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 1:53 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
Willis,
Atheism is not a banner under which people march. People do not do things “in the name of atheism.” What you’re asking for is like asking people to get together to not collect stamps.
Look at Bill Gates. He has donated billions of dollars to charities. He is also an atheist. He does not donate “in the name of atheism.” He does it because it is the right thing to do. People aren’t going to make news as “atheist volunteers” because that is not why they do it.
Its apples and oranges.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 2:00 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
Willis, as you yourself pointed out most of the organized service groups; larger groups that have names and are likely to draw media attention, are religious.
Non-religious do-gooding just tend to be more decentralized. Religion, or lack of it doesn’t come up in conversation and generally no press releases are issued.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 2:02 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
Most of the loudest voices proclaiming that they “do good deeds in the name of “god”, are really looking for approbation. All one has need do is look at the posts over an extended period to find that, for far too many, their real “god” is a materialistic one. A “god” is what one cares most about, and that is never truly ascertained by words, nor is it even by deeds. One must look somewhat deeper in order to establish several things. The firs is “why” is it really done and second, how do such individuals define success; i.e. the standard(s) by which it is measured. If those standards are materialistic, such as money, political power, or even the approval of others, the real “god” is materialism.
One of the above posters maintains that he has never “seen” either agnostic, atheist, etc. volunteer as does the “Christian” community. The individual has apparently not been around much. The fact that he doesn’t “see” it, may not be that other than “Christians” don’t do good works, it may be that they don’t spend as much time as do “Christians” boasting about it that, in order to be “perceived” as charitable and doing good works. Some of us have not lived such sheltered lives, and therefore are not so parochial in our views.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 2:05 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
And quite honestly ashhugger, nobody questions that fact.
But when the local churches banded together and spent a weekend helping other people, dear ol’ Scott felt the need to question it.
It’s a question that should never have been asked, and it was not, as he now suggests, and innocent desire to learn, but a deep rooted desire to slam religions.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 2:16 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
uhoh, somebody work up the bobbie from Delta.
Mr. Laitres, I keep asking the question of you, and you keep not answering.
What institutions of higher learning have you attended, and what specific degrees have you earned that allows you to feel smarter than anybody else?
And, since you have been known to be less than honest in your posts, I require names and dates for verification.
By your continued refusal to answer I can only surmise that you are a self taught individual that is incapable honest, intelligent conversation and need to rely on childish attempts at character assassination and belittling others to make yourself seem more intelligent than you actually are.
If facts that prove your positions false arise, you feel perfectly within your rights to discount any facts that you choose to not believe, then base your arguments on your self imposed ignorance of those facts.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 2:23 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
Ok, ok, Scott….you win. A bunch of know-nothing Jesus freaks patted themselves on the back in public for doing something good, and you stepped up, challenged their foolish delusions, and set them straight. Hell, two or three of them might even have a serious crisis of faith. After all, they were asking for it. It’s their fault for daring to do something good. Because doing good isn’t as important as knowing the truths of the universe, and looking down on everything with a superior sniff. Congratulations. You showed them.
At least you’re not trying to say you’re sorry anymore. Honest condescension beats false consideration any day. When your only God is Yourself, you rarely have to worry about disappointing him.
Feel Better?
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 2:30 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
Willis - I think it’s about time you excused yourself from the dinner table so the grown-ups can finish their meal in peace. Someone will be up to check your homework in a little while.
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 2:37 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
What does RLaitres’ being from Delta have to do with anything, Willis? You bring it up every chance you get. Is it a thinly veiled “I know where you live” threat? A long-standing blood feud along Hwy 6 & 50? What?
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 2:51 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
None of the above, it’s like nearly every one of his posts, irrelevant to anything under discussion.
He signs all his letters from Delta, so why not acknowledge that this is a different Bob from any place else?
Posted April 24th, 2008 at 3:12 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
Curmudgeon,
Somewhere, you and I got our wires crossed. I did not do the things you have accused me of, I do not feel the way you seem to think I feel, and I am not trying to do the things you seem to think I am trying to do.
You have said that one should live and let live, yet you are battering me for expressing my opinions in the same manner which you are doing. My very first post on this topic was a simple question regarding the supernatural, and it was responded to with accusations of spilling poison and being upset about what was done. I think its great that people got together to do this, no matter who they credit for it, and no matter what you claim I think about it. I’m sorry we got off on the wrong foot over this, and that is a sincere apology. You sound like someone I would like in real life.
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