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	<title>Comments on: Domestic fruit and vegetable crops threatened by lack of labor</title>
	<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/07/domestic-fruit-and-vegetable-crops-threatened-by-lack-of-labor/</link>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 03:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tiag</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/07/domestic-fruit-and-vegetable-crops-threatened-by-lack-of-labor/#comment-2797</link>
		<dc:creator>tiag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 17:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Harris, I am looking for work. I live basically with no frills, yet  I need to earn 14.00 to 15.00 per hour with a 40 + hour work week, to cover rent for my daughter and I. food, utilities, GAS, Mr. Harris are you willing to pay me that much to work straight labor? I have a BA in Business, an very internet literate with a background in website research, development, and marketing. I have lived in GJ for over 13 years, raised seven children here most of whom are still in the area, working and living on their own.

I, re read your letter's heading, got off this page and went to GJS's  employment page. First off, there is no "Farm Worker" classification, none. Then when I did a Yahoo Job search of the same, there weren't any job listings found in our area either, none. 

When my brother and I were kids, young teenagers, we made $20.00 bucks a day sorting tomatoes on a six man/woman picking crew. He and I were the only ones on the job that spoke English. In the afternoon the job foremen would come along, we would sign a labor record sign in sheet and got paid at the end of the day.  Big bucks back then.

Work was hard but steady, if you've ever picked tomatoes you know what I mean. Daily temperatures got up to 115 degrees during the summer months in the valley there with few breaks, all that being said, hard work is not a distant relative of mine. Speaking of hard work, I was a single dad of six for a while, if you've ever been a single parent you know what I mean. :O) Finding work from area farmers? I can't find any, with basic research applied, I still don't know where to look, who's fault is that?

Mr. Harris, I don’t know you at all. My letter here is based on what I read from your own hand. It seems Sir that you want workers but do not want to pay them their worth, paying under the table, paying un-educated, and a transient type labor pool are the norm for farm labor's I know, I’ve seen it first hand;  you Mr. Harris say differently. Sorry, but of me, I am none of those, I guess my self worth comes into play here. I can earn my keep picking tomatoes, peaches or researching a persons self-worth and to develop a website to prove it, Farm owners though do not want to pay what an individual is worth, and then they gripe about the poor or lacking labor pool. Seems like some area farmers have created their own problem when it comes to the pay scale, the rest of the US have created a problem by not correcting the illegal immigrant problem before now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Harris, I am looking for work. I live basically with no frills, yet  I need to earn 14.00 to 15.00 per hour with a 40 + hour work week, to cover rent for my daughter and I. food, utilities, GAS, Mr. Harris are you willing to pay me that much to work straight labor? I have a BA in Business, an very internet literate with a background in website research, development, and marketing. I have lived in GJ for over 13 years, raised seven children here most of whom are still in the area, working and living on their own.</p>
<p>I, re read your letter&#8217;s heading, got off this page and went to GJS&#8217;s  employment page. First off, there is no &#8220;Farm Worker&#8221; classification, none. Then when I did a Yahoo Job search of the same, there weren&#8217;t any job listings found in our area either, none. </p>
<p>When my brother and I were kids, young teenagers, we made $20.00 bucks a day sorting tomatoes on a six man/woman picking crew. He and I were the only ones on the job that spoke English. In the afternoon the job foremen would come along, we would sign a labor record sign in sheet and got paid at the end of the day.  Big bucks back then.</p>
<p>Work was hard but steady, if you&#8217;ve ever picked tomatoes you know what I mean. Daily temperatures got up to 115 degrees during the summer months in the valley there with few breaks, all that being said, hard work is not a distant relative of mine. Speaking of hard work, I was a single dad of six for a while, if you&#8217;ve ever been a single parent you know what I mean. :O) Finding work from area farmers? I can&#8217;t find any, with basic research applied, I still don&#8217;t know where to look, who&#8217;s fault is that?</p>
<p>Mr. Harris, I don’t know you at all. My letter here is based on what I read from your own hand. It seems Sir that you want workers but do not want to pay them their worth, paying under the table, paying un-educated, and a transient type labor pool are the norm for farm labor&#8217;s I know, I’ve seen it first hand;  you Mr. Harris say differently. Sorry, but of me, I am none of those, I guess my self worth comes into play here. I can earn my keep picking tomatoes, peaches or researching a persons self-worth and to develop a website to prove it, Farm owners though do not want to pay what an individual is worth, and then they gripe about the poor or lacking labor pool. Seems like some area farmers have created their own problem when it comes to the pay scale, the rest of the US have created a problem by not correcting the illegal immigrant problem before now.</p>
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		<title>By: Willis_Leon_Johnson</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/07/domestic-fruit-and-vegetable-crops-threatened-by-lack-of-labor/#comment-2754</link>
		<dc:creator>Willis_Leon_Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 01:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/07/domestic-fruit-and-vegetable-crops-threatened-by-lack-of-labor/#comment-2754</guid>
		<description>Mr. Harris, did you know that it is illegal to harbor a fugitive?

Did you also know that it is illegal to aid and/or abet a person in the commission of a crime?

Did you know that IF the laws ever get enforced, you get arrested, and I end up on your jury, things will not go well for you in the jury room?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Harris, did you know that it is illegal to harbor a fugitive?</p>
<p>Did you also know that it is illegal to aid and/or abet a person in the commission of a crime?</p>
<p>Did you know that IF the laws ever get enforced, you get arrested, and I end up on your jury, things will not go well for you in the jury room?</p>
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		<title>By: sassy</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/07/domestic-fruit-and-vegetable-crops-threatened-by-lack-of-labor/#comment-2753</link>
		<dc:creator>sassy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 01:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/07/domestic-fruit-and-vegetable-crops-threatened-by-lack-of-labor/#comment-2753</guid>
		<description>Mr. Harris

If you talk to many old timers in the mines, oil and gas fields and construction they will confirm that their jobs are indeed being taken by illegal aliens. No matter how many foreign workers we allow in legally to work seasonal farm jobs, or how many sneak in illegally, you will not have enough ag workers. Like most workers, they want the best wages and working conditions. You need to lobby to put in place a system that actually tracks, confirms that workers brought in legally to do seasonal ag work do just that or get deported, then maybe you would have the workers you state you need. While your at it, you might want to consider supporting the enforcement of our laws and securing our borders as any good American citizen should do, not defending the rights of those who break our laws over and over again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Harris</p>
<p>If you talk to many old timers in the mines, oil and gas fields and construction they will confirm that their jobs are indeed being taken by illegal aliens. No matter how many foreign workers we allow in legally to work seasonal farm jobs, or how many sneak in illegally, you will not have enough ag workers. Like most workers, they want the best wages and working conditions. You need to lobby to put in place a system that actually tracks, confirms that workers brought in legally to do seasonal ag work do just that or get deported, then maybe you would have the workers you state you need. While your at it, you might want to consider supporting the enforcement of our laws and securing our borders as any good American citizen should do, not defending the rights of those who break our laws over and over again.</p>
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		<title>By: grandmasix</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/07/domestic-fruit-and-vegetable-crops-threatened-by-lack-of-labor/#comment-2325</link>
		<dc:creator>grandmasix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 18:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/07/domestic-fruit-and-vegetable-crops-threatened-by-lack-of-labor/#comment-2325</guid>
		<description>Mr. Harris, Why is it that you don't mention that you head the group "Western Colo. Justice for Immigrants"? This wouldn't be a front for paying your labor, who can't complain, a little less, would it? The reason you don't have labor is because the illegal alien will not work for $16.00 a day anymore. They are working in the highest paying jobs in the area, oil and gas, and they completely dominate the service industry. Why should they work in the rain, when they can get room and board for free? 
You can cry and whine all you want, but if the rule of law on which on which our country is founded is ignored by some, anarchy and the destruction of our country will follow. If illegal aliens are not breaking the law, why do they need amnesty and why would they consent to a fine. Now you are advocating for all to break the law. If you choose to break the law, then you should be willing to stand the consequences.
Why don't you hire them legally? Too expensive, too much of your profit goes into following the rules, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Harris, Why is it that you don&#8217;t mention that you head the group &#8220;Western Colo. Justice for Immigrants&#8221;? This wouldn&#8217;t be a front for paying your labor, who can&#8217;t complain, a little less, would it? The reason you don&#8217;t have labor is because the illegal alien will not work for $16.00 a day anymore. They are working in the highest paying jobs in the area, oil and gas, and they completely dominate the service industry. Why should they work in the rain, when they can get room and board for free?<br />
You can cry and whine all you want, but if the rule of law on which on which our country is founded is ignored by some, anarchy and the destruction of our country will follow. If illegal aliens are not breaking the law, why do they need amnesty and why would they consent to a fine. Now you are advocating for all to break the law. If you choose to break the law, then you should be willing to stand the consequences.<br />
Why don&#8217;t you hire them legally? Too expensive, too much of your profit goes into following the rules, right?</p>
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