Comments on: Bond issue shouldn’t be killed because of low scores http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/12/bond-issue-shouldnt-be-killed-because-of-low-scores/ Grand Junction, Colorado's community Web site, discussions, forums, message boards, wiki and more. Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:14:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: grandmasix http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/12/bond-issue-shouldnt-be-killed-because-of-low-scores/#comment-2814 grandmasix Tue, 13 May 2008 23:10:20 +0000 http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/12/bond-issue-shouldnt-be-killed-because-of-low-scores/#comment-2814 That's right, Class of 52, show no class and pick on a mistake. If you ever make a typo or say anything wrong, you can bet I will be watching. If you want to post on subject, and add to the conversation, that would be great. That’s right, Class of 52, show no class and pick on a mistake. If you ever make a typo or say anything wrong, you can bet I will be watching. If you want to post on subject, and add to the conversation, that would be great.

]]> By: Classof52 http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/12/bond-issue-shouldnt-be-killed-because-of-low-scores/#comment-2811 Classof52 Tue, 13 May 2008 22:22:40 +0000 http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/12/bond-issue-shouldnt-be-killed-because-of-low-scores/#comment-2811 Grandmasix wrote: "I didn’t mean that those people who have children in school should bare(sic) the brunt of taxes." What is a naked brunt? Grandmasix wrote: “I didn’t mean that those people who have children in school should bare(sic) the brunt of taxes.”

What is a naked brunt?

]]> By: grandmasix http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/12/bond-issue-shouldnt-be-killed-because-of-low-scores/#comment-2792 grandmasix Tue, 13 May 2008 16:48:31 +0000 http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/12/bond-issue-shouldnt-be-killed-because-of-low-scores/#comment-2792 Jen, I guess sometimes we know what we think, but our words are a little short. I didn't mean that those people who have children in school should bare the brunt of taxes. My idea was that with all the new houses and parents in our area, the school district should not need to burden the taxpayers further. However, the other half of this idea is that the school tax should not be the cause of my losing my home (which my husband built 60+ years ago), because the valley needs more schools. The school district receives more than half of the total tax bill I pay. There is something wrong with this equation. Jen,
I guess sometimes we know what we think, but our words are a little short.
I didn’t mean that those people who have children in school should bare the brunt of taxes. My idea was that with all the new houses and parents in our area, the school district should not need to burden the taxpayers further.
However, the other half of this idea is that the school tax should not be the cause of my losing my home (which my husband built 60+ years ago), because the valley needs more schools. The school district receives more than half of the total tax bill I pay. There is something wrong with this equation.

]]> By: Proteus http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/12/bond-issue-shouldnt-be-killed-because-of-low-scores/#comment-2739 Proteus Mon, 12 May 2008 22:57:46 +0000 http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/12/bond-issue-shouldnt-be-killed-because-of-low-scores/#comment-2739 Oneperson-Amen to #9. Until the district adopts your suggestions, they won't be getting my "yes" vote on ANYTHING! Oneperson-Amen to #9. Until the district adopts your suggestions, they won’t be getting my “yes” vote on ANYTHING!

]]> By: oneperson http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/12/bond-issue-shouldnt-be-killed-because-of-low-scores/#comment-2737 oneperson Mon, 12 May 2008 21:59:40 +0000 http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/12/bond-issue-shouldnt-be-killed-because-of-low-scores/#comment-2737 As an "official spokesperson" Mr. Kirtland is only saying what his boss, the Supeintendent, wants him to say. Replacing him, without replacing his boss, will simply result in another face delivering the same message. Want to change the message? Then replace him AND his boss and have the Board demand "Clear, Accurate and Responsive Communication" that is HONEST. Until the district is willing to acknowledge "the good, the bad and the ugly", nothing is going to change. As an “official spokesperson” Mr. Kirtland is only saying what his boss, the Supeintendent, wants him to say. Replacing him, without replacing his boss, will simply result in another face delivering the same message. Want to change the message? Then replace him AND his boss and have the Board demand “Clear, Accurate and Responsive Communication” that is HONEST. Until the district is willing to acknowledge “the good, the bad and the ugly”, nothing is going to change.

]]> By: jen http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/12/bond-issue-shouldnt-be-killed-because-of-low-scores/#comment-2732 jen Mon, 12 May 2008 21:13:31 +0000 http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/12/bond-issue-shouldnt-be-killed-because-of-low-scores/#comment-2732 BTW Proteus, Yes, Jeff Kirtland needs to go away. BTW Proteus, Yes, Jeff Kirtland needs to go away.

]]> By: jen http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/12/bond-issue-shouldnt-be-killed-because-of-low-scores/#comment-2731 jen Mon, 12 May 2008 21:10:18 +0000 http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/12/bond-issue-shouldnt-be-killed-because-of-low-scores/#comment-2731 Grandmasix, I understand not wanting to pay more taxes to the school district. They really dont show that they use the money that they have properly. And I also feel that bad teachers should be fired just like anyone else that doesnt do the job that they were hired for. But as far as only people with kids or new homes paying the bill, this generation of kids will someday be running this country, it really falls on all of us. After all....they will be running our nursing homes. Grandmasix, I understand not wanting to pay more taxes to the school district. They really dont show that they use the money that they have properly. And I also feel that bad teachers should be fired just like anyone else that doesnt do the job that they were hired for. But as far as only people with kids or new homes paying the bill, this generation of kids will someday be running this country, it really falls on all of us. After all….they will be running our nursing homes.

]]> By: Proteus http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/12/bond-issue-shouldnt-be-killed-because-of-low-scores/#comment-2726 Proteus Mon, 12 May 2008 20:24:53 +0000 http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/12/bond-issue-shouldnt-be-killed-because-of-low-scores/#comment-2726 I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm sick and tired of Jeff Kirtland (official spokesperson/apologist for the Dist. 51 administration) making endless excuses for arrogance and incompetence. My favorite (sic) is, "I can't really discuss this - it's a personnel matter." He should be the first one fired under an effective accountability policy. I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m sick and tired of Jeff Kirtland (official spokesperson/apologist for the Dist. 51 administration) making endless excuses for arrogance and incompetence. My favorite (sic) is, “I can’t really discuss this - it’s a personnel matter.” He should be the first one fired under an effective accountability policy.

]]> By: Willis_Leon_Johnson http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/12/bond-issue-shouldnt-be-killed-because-of-low-scores/#comment-2722 Willis_Leon_Johnson Mon, 12 May 2008 19:09:28 +0000 http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/12/bond-issue-shouldnt-be-killed-because-of-low-scores/#comment-2722 Grandmasix, it's not really money. Grandmasix, it’s not really money.

]]> By: grandmasix http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/12/bond-issue-shouldnt-be-killed-because-of-low-scores/#comment-2714 grandmasix Mon, 12 May 2008 18:11:48 +0000 http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/05/12/bond-issue-shouldnt-be-killed-because-of-low-scores/#comment-2714 I am not ready to pay higher taxes to the school district for any reason. Let the people who have new homes, children in school etc pay. If the school taxes make up over 55% of the taxes you pay for property, which I have owned for over 60 years, (and they do) then the school district should find out what they are doing with all that money, or the public should. I am not ready to pay higher taxes to the school district for any reason.
Let the people who have new homes, children in school etc pay. If the school taxes make up over 55% of the taxes you pay for property, which I have owned for over 60 years, (and they do) then the school district should find out what they are doing with all that money, or the public should.

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