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	<title>Comments on: Who are you going to vote for?</title>
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		<title>By: Classof52</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/07/who-are-you-going-to-vote-for/#comment-11166</link>
		<dc:creator>Classof52</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mozen: "My answer to a telephone pollster would be something like: “I am voting AGAINST whoever you represent.”

They generally claim to represent independent polling agencies-usually for news organizations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mozen: &#8220;My answer to a telephone pollster would be something like: “I am voting AGAINST whoever you represent.”</p>
<p>They generally claim to represent independent polling agencies-usually for news organizations.</p>
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		<title>By: mozen</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/07/who-are-you-going-to-vote-for/#comment-11165</link>
		<dc:creator>mozen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/07/who-are-you-going-to-vote-for/#comment-11165</guid>
		<description>My answer to a telephone pollster would be something like: "I am voting AGAINST whoever you represent."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My answer to a telephone pollster would be something like: &#8220;I am voting AGAINST whoever you represent.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Willis_Leon_Johnson</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/07/who-are-you-going-to-vote-for/#comment-11164</link>
		<dc:creator>Willis_Leon_Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/07/who-are-you-going-to-vote-for/#comment-11164</guid>
		<description>So, you are going to vote for Janet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, you are going to vote for Janet?</p>
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		<title>By: Classof52</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/07/who-are-you-going-to-vote-for/#comment-11163</link>
		<dc:creator>Classof52</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/07/who-are-you-going-to-vote-for/#comment-11163</guid>
		<description>I have also had a number of pollsters call me.  I have had absolutely no problems in telling them precisely who I am going to vote for.  They also ask about issues and those are clear in my mind as well.  Rarely have the choices been so clear cut at just about every level.  But so far I have seen only one Republican who I am clearly in favor of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have also had a number of pollsters call me.  I have had absolutely no problems in telling them precisely who I am going to vote for.  They also ask about issues and those are clear in my mind as well.  Rarely have the choices been so clear cut at just about every level.  But so far I have seen only one Republican who I am clearly in favor of.</p>
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		<title>By: RLaitres</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/07/who-are-you-going-to-vote-for/#comment-11161</link>
		<dc:creator>RLaitres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/07/who-are-you-going-to-vote-for/#comment-11161</guid>
		<description>We can understand Ms. Stubbs frustration with the state of politics and political discourse in this country.  I also, am frustrated with the process but, then I ask myself the following question:  An I, personally, doing anything at all to change it?

If the answer to that is 'NO' then I have no right to complain or to condemn other for what "I" have allowed to happen.  Many erroneously believe that all they have to do is 'vote', and that their duty is completed for another2, 4, or 6 years.  That is not how things work in the real world.  

Prior to voting, one needs to educate oneself and learn everything about the individual for whom one is voting, then cast an informed vote.  And that information,  that which is required, will not come from merely listening and reading what candidates or others want you to believe.

After an individual has entered office, one also needs to watch very carefully as to whether the officeholder acts according to what he/she told you they were; i.e. what they really believed, or if they are more concerned with publicity and self-promotion instead of 'working hard', and in the interests of all those he/she was elected to serve, whose servant they actually are.

When voting on issues, one needs to carefully study those as well.  And that includes far more than how one 'feels' about one or the other.  One must also look at what is the real motivation of those who would place such issues on the ballot, as well as long and hard as to the possible effects, short and long term, of voting one way or the other. 

Ms. Stubbs claims not to want to vote for either party, or not at all, due to her frustration.  Others will withdraw totally from the politcal process and join no party, registering themselves as either 'Independent' or 'Unaffiliated'.  That choice I will defend for them.  

However, in doing so, such means that they will have no 'hand' as to whom the various political organizations select and may end up with but a 'multiple choice', neither option which they are given being worth much.

They want to 'straddle the fence' and go through life committed to 'nothing', content with the choices with which they are presented.  Personally, I consider that a very bad decision but, that is their choice.  As some point in ones life, one must commit to something, and something bigger than oneself.  

Like in the physical world, if one seeks to but straddle a fence, the only two possible outcomes are 'splinters' or being 'blown off' by a strong wind.
Some of us, are not satisfied with such choices limited outcomes.  We do not like 'splinters' or being 'blown off'; i.e. allowing ourselves to be controlled by external forces over which we have no control.

Ms. Stubbs has an absolute right to choose as she wishes, just as we all do.  However, let us hope that she is not seeking others to provide 'answers' for her, but will determine her own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can understand Ms. Stubbs frustration with the state of politics and political discourse in this country.  I also, am frustrated with the process but, then I ask myself the following question:  An I, personally, doing anything at all to change it?</p>
<p>If the answer to that is &#8216;NO&#8217; then I have no right to complain or to condemn other for what &#8220;I&#8221; have allowed to happen.  Many erroneously believe that all they have to do is &#8216;vote&#8217;, and that their duty is completed for another2, 4, or 6 years.  That is not how things work in the real world.  </p>
<p>Prior to voting, one needs to educate oneself and learn everything about the individual for whom one is voting, then cast an informed vote.  And that information,  that which is required, will not come from merely listening and reading what candidates or others want you to believe.</p>
<p>After an individual has entered office, one also needs to watch very carefully as to whether the officeholder acts according to what he/she told you they were; i.e. what they really believed, or if they are more concerned with publicity and self-promotion instead of &#8216;working hard&#8217;, and in the interests of all those he/she was elected to serve, whose servant they actually are.</p>
<p>When voting on issues, one needs to carefully study those as well.  And that includes far more than how one &#8216;feels&#8217; about one or the other.  One must also look at what is the real motivation of those who would place such issues on the ballot, as well as long and hard as to the possible effects, short and long term, of voting one way or the other. </p>
<p>Ms. Stubbs claims not to want to vote for either party, or not at all, due to her frustration.  Others will withdraw totally from the politcal process and join no party, registering themselves as either &#8216;Independent&#8217; or &#8216;Unaffiliated&#8217;.  That choice I will defend for them.  </p>
<p>However, in doing so, such means that they will have no &#8216;hand&#8217; as to whom the various political organizations select and may end up with but a &#8216;multiple choice&#8217;, neither option which they are given being worth much.</p>
<p>They want to &#8217;straddle the fence&#8217; and go through life committed to &#8216;nothing&#8217;, content with the choices with which they are presented.  Personally, I consider that a very bad decision but, that is their choice.  As some point in ones life, one must commit to something, and something bigger than oneself.  </p>
<p>Like in the physical world, if one seeks to but straddle a fence, the only two possible outcomes are &#8217;splinters&#8217; or being &#8216;blown off&#8217; by a strong wind.<br />
Some of us, are not satisfied with such choices limited outcomes.  We do not like &#8217;splinters&#8217; or being &#8216;blown off&#8217;; i.e. allowing ourselves to be controlled by external forces over which we have no control.</p>
<p>Ms. Stubbs has an absolute right to choose as she wishes, just as we all do.  However, let us hope that she is not seeking others to provide &#8216;answers&#8217; for her, but will determine her own.</p>
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		<title>By: Willis_Leon_Johnson</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/07/who-are-you-going-to-vote-for/#comment-11156</link>
		<dc:creator>Willis_Leon_Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 22:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/07/who-are-you-going-to-vote-for/#comment-11156</guid>
		<description>Look at it as a voluntary tax.

If the democrats get into office and find out you have any, they will just come get it anyway.

Why not give it up now and buy some goodwill?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at it as a voluntary tax.</p>
<p>If the democrats get into office and find out you have any, they will just come get it anyway.</p>
<p>Why not give it up now and buy some goodwill?</p>
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		<title>By: Willis_Leon_Johnson</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/07/who-are-you-going-to-vote-for/#comment-11155</link>
		<dc:creator>Willis_Leon_Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 22:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/07/who-are-you-going-to-vote-for/#comment-11155</guid>
		<description>I never figured you for a democrat voter, just hate to think of all that money just sitting there when the democrat convention committee needs it so desperately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never figured you for a democrat voter, just hate to think of all that money just sitting there when the democrat convention committee needs it so desperately.</p>
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		<title>By: Willis_Leon_Johnson</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/07/who-are-you-going-to-vote-for/#comment-11154</link>
		<dc:creator>Willis_Leon_Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 22:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/07/who-are-you-going-to-vote-for/#comment-11154</guid>
		<description>You do realize that his name is Barr, and that is not his workplace?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do realize that his name is Barr, and that is not his workplace?</p>
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		<title>By: GJBubba</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/07/who-are-you-going-to-vote-for/#comment-11153</link>
		<dc:creator>GJBubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 22:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/07/who-are-you-going-to-vote-for/#comment-11153</guid>
		<description>Willis - Who said I'm voting Democrat in November! Truth be known, I'm a Bob Barr kind of guy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Willis - Who said I&#8217;m voting Democrat in November! Truth be known, I&#8217;m a Bob Barr kind of guy!</p>
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		<title>By: Willis_Leon_Johnson</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/07/who-are-you-going-to-vote-for/#comment-11151</link>
		<dc:creator>Willis_Leon_Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 22:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/07/who-are-you-going-to-vote-for/#comment-11151</guid>
		<description>Well, the democrat candidacy is still up for grabs.

Some think the clintons are going to make a bid for taking it back since the latest primaries, after olbammer pretty nuch had it tied up went overwhelmingly for hitlery, and leaving the upstart minority feller looking bad to the democrat voters in the last few States.

'Tis going to be an interesting convention in denver this month.

Folks already proclaiming disruptions and possible riots.

And the convention committee 11 million in debt.

So far the uber rich on this board, class and blubberby have failed to bail the committee out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the democrat candidacy is still up for grabs.</p>
<p>Some think the clintons are going to make a bid for taking it back since the latest primaries, after olbammer pretty nuch had it tied up went overwhelmingly for hitlery, and leaving the upstart minority feller looking bad to the democrat voters in the last few States.</p>
<p>&#8216;Tis going to be an interesting convention in denver this month.</p>
<p>Folks already proclaiming disruptions and possible riots.</p>
<p>And the convention committee 11 million in debt.</p>
<p>So far the uber rich on this board, class and blubberby have failed to bail the committee out.</p>
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