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	<title>Comments on: The Russian bear has attacked</title>
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		<title>By: Willis_Leon_Johnson</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/22/the-russian-bear-has-attacked/#comment-12281</link>
		<dc:creator>Willis_Leon_Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/22/the-russian-bear-has-attacked/#comment-12281</guid>
		<description>I know, it's like the number of barrels of oil, and the slight alteration of the "gallons" to suddenly become barrels.

It's not typos, he is just trying to use scare tactics and feels the need to lie to build up his case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know, it&#8217;s like the number of barrels of oil, and the slight alteration of the &#8220;gallons&#8221; to suddenly become barrels.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not typos, he is just trying to use scare tactics and feels the need to lie to build up his case.</p>
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		<title>By: bullishfrog</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/22/the-russian-bear-has-attacked/#comment-12280</link>
		<dc:creator>bullishfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/22/the-russian-bear-has-attacked/#comment-12280</guid>
		<description>dc: "was talking about electricity from solar panels. Germany is covered with them. It is where they gat the vast majority of their electricity. The number I saw was 80%"

dc is just a little bit off on this 80% figure: 

"On the basis of the latest data, the Federal Environment Ministry shows the growing importance of renewable energies for energy markets and industry. Their share in total electricity consumption in Germany increased to 14.2 percent in 2007 as compared with 11.7 percent in the previous year." ------------------That includes wind and hydroelectric, not just solar.

http://www.bmu.de/english/renewable_energy/doc/39831.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dc: &#8220;was talking about electricity from solar panels. Germany is covered with them. It is where they gat the vast majority of their electricity. The number I saw was 80%&#8221;</p>
<p>dc is just a little bit off on this 80% figure: </p>
<p>&#8220;On the basis of the latest data, the Federal Environment Ministry shows the growing importance of renewable energies for energy markets and industry. Their share in total electricity consumption in Germany increased to 14.2 percent in 2007 as compared with 11.7 percent in the previous year.&#8221; &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;That includes wind and hydroelectric, not just solar.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bmu.de/english/renewable_energy/doc/39831.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.bmu.de/english/renewable_energy/doc/39831.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Willis_Leon_Johnson</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/22/the-russian-bear-has-attacked/#comment-12279</link>
		<dc:creator>Willis_Leon_Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/22/the-russian-bear-has-attacked/#comment-12279</guid>
		<description>Golly Duke, you get caught making up numbers again?

Entirely too obvious to be a few typos....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Golly Duke, you get caught making up numbers again?</p>
<p>Entirely too obvious to be a few typos&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: dc</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/22/the-russian-bear-has-attacked/#comment-12276</link>
		<dc:creator>dc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 06:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/22/the-russian-bear-has-attacked/#comment-12276</guid>
		<description>Tasha,

I will check my source, but probably won't have time to respond. It is about midnight and I am preparing to head to Denver. I am volunteering at "the Big Tent", which is the blogging HQ for the Democratic Convention. Bloggers from all over the world will be there. I will try to send reports to the FreeP website at the "Bagel Street Irregulars" blog.

Hold down the fort. I will be back on Thursday unless I can get a ticket to the Obama speech at Mile High. I have to be in Denver at 6:30 AM. Rockin' into the night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tasha,</p>
<p>I will check my source, but probably won&#8217;t have time to respond. It is about midnight and I am preparing to head to Denver. I am volunteering at &#8220;the Big Tent&#8221;, which is the blogging HQ for the Democratic Convention. Bloggers from all over the world will be there. I will try to send reports to the FreeP website at the &#8220;Bagel Street Irregulars&#8221; blog.</p>
<p>Hold down the fort. I will be back on Thursday unless I can get a ticket to the Obama speech at Mile High. I have to be in Denver at 6:30 AM. Rockin&#8217; into the night.</p>
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		<title>By: tasha53</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/22/the-russian-bear-has-attacked/#comment-12275</link>
		<dc:creator>tasha53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 05:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/22/the-russian-bear-has-attacked/#comment-12275</guid>
		<description>Only info I found was from 2006.  At that time, half of Germany's energy came from coal plants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only info I found was from 2006.  At that time, half of Germany&#8217;s energy came from coal plants.</p>
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		<title>By: tasha53</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/22/the-russian-bear-has-attacked/#comment-12274</link>
		<dc:creator>tasha53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 05:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/22/the-russian-bear-has-attacked/#comment-12274</guid>
		<description>dc oops my apology about my last post, my eyes are tired and I put up the wrong information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dc oops my apology about my last post, my eyes are tired and I put up the wrong information.</p>
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		<title>By: dc</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/22/the-russian-bear-has-attacked/#comment-12273</link>
		<dc:creator>dc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 05:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/22/the-russian-bear-has-attacked/#comment-12273</guid>
		<description>Tasha,

I was talking about electricity from solar panels. Germany is covered with them. It is where they gat the vast majority of their electricity. The number I saw was 80%

Bullish, You are correct on the Katrina spills. The number was 1,700 barrels, not 17,000; hardly significant in the big scheme of things. Are you certain the fuel oil spill( I was aware it was fuel oil ) was 400,000 gallons? I thought it was barrels. In any event, it made a god awful mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tasha,</p>
<p>I was talking about electricity from solar panels. Germany is covered with them. It is where they gat the vast majority of their electricity. The number I saw was 80%</p>
<p>Bullish, You are correct on the Katrina spills. The number was 1,700 barrels, not 17,000; hardly significant in the big scheme of things. Are you certain the fuel oil spill( I was aware it was fuel oil ) was 400,000 gallons? I thought it was barrels. In any event, it made a god awful mess.</p>
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		<title>By: tasha53</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/22/the-russian-bear-has-attacked/#comment-12272</link>
		<dc:creator>tasha53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 05:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/22/the-russian-bear-has-attacked/#comment-12272</guid>
		<description>Sorry dc, but you are wrong about the 80%.  Maybe in a couple of decades.

"There are already four small geothermal power plants successfully operating in Germany, albeit supplying only a tiny amount of electricity."

http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/story?id=52588</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry dc, but you are wrong about the 80%.  Maybe in a couple of decades.</p>
<p>&#8220;There are already four small geothermal power plants successfully operating in Germany, albeit supplying only a tiny amount of electricity.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/story?id=52588" rel="nofollow">http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/story?id=52588</a></p>
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		<title>By: bullishfrog</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/22/the-russian-bear-has-attacked/#comment-12268</link>
		<dc:creator>bullishfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/22/the-russian-bear-has-attacked/#comment-12268</guid>
		<description>"17,000 barrels of oil were spilled into the Gulf of Mexico during Katrina and, proving the industry doesn’t need a hurricane to make a mess, 440,000 barrels in the Mississippi River a couple of months ago."

The spill in the Mississippi resulted from a collision between two marine vessels. It was fuel oil, not crude oil.  It wasn't 400,000 barrels, it was 400,000 GALLONS, which is equivalent to 9500 barrels, and it is being cleaned up.

During hurricane Katrina, there was no significant amount of oil spilled from drilling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;17,000 barrels of oil were spilled into the Gulf of Mexico during Katrina and, proving the industry doesn’t need a hurricane to make a mess, 440,000 barrels in the Mississippi River a couple of months ago.&#8221;</p>
<p>The spill in the Mississippi resulted from a collision between two marine vessels. It was fuel oil, not crude oil.  It wasn&#8217;t 400,000 barrels, it was 400,000 GALLONS, which is equivalent to 9500 barrels, and it is being cleaned up.</p>
<p>During hurricane Katrina, there was no significant amount of oil spilled from drilling.</p>
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		<title>By: dc</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/22/the-russian-bear-has-attacked/#comment-12267</link>
		<dc:creator>dc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/08/22/the-russian-bear-has-attacked/#comment-12267</guid>
		<description>If solar is a bad idea, that would make Thomas Edison a misguided fool. 17,000 barrels of oil were spilled into the Gulf of Mexico during Katrina and, proving the industry doesn't need a hurricane to make a mess, 440,000 barrels in the Mississippi River a couple of months ago.

I think Germany is in Europe. You know, Germany, where they get 80% of their electricity from the Sun.

Well, I could go on, but why? People who call you down for trusting science don't listen well to liberals anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If solar is a bad idea, that would make Thomas Edison a misguided fool. 17,000 barrels of oil were spilled into the Gulf of Mexico during Katrina and, proving the industry doesn&#8217;t need a hurricane to make a mess, 440,000 barrels in the Mississippi River a couple of months ago.</p>
<p>I think Germany is in Europe. You know, Germany, where they get 80% of their electricity from the Sun.</p>
<p>Well, I could go on, but why? People who call you down for trusting science don&#8217;t listen well to liberals anyway.</p>
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