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	<title>Comments on: Be thankful instead of whiny</title>
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		<title>By: Ullr</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/09/28/be-thankful-instead-of-whiny/#comment-14500</link>
		<dc:creator>Ullr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FutureQuest - Well said in your post #18, although I know of at least one regular poster (need his name be mentioned) who would vehemently disagree with your reasonable and thoughtful position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FutureQuest - Well said in your post #18, although I know of at least one regular poster (need his name be mentioned) who would vehemently disagree with your reasonable and thoughtful position.</p>
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		<title>By: RLaitres</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/09/28/be-thankful-instead-of-whiny/#comment-14499</link>
		<dc:creator>RLaitres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/09/28/be-thankful-instead-of-whiny/#comment-14499</guid>
		<description>oneperson stated: "How is “I would be willing to bet you can live with the noise for one weekend and if you can’t, leave town, go to the mountains.” any less tolerant than, no I don’t want the noise so you can’t do it?"

The diffence is that it is not the one who is being asked to "leave town" that is doing the disturbing of the other.  He/she is disturbing no other person.  That is the difference.

Everyone 'complains', and way too much.  But that is usually only seen when it is not something "they" want.  When it is, from events to public works projects, be the latter a project in Fruita, Grand Junction, Delta, or Montrose, then "cost" is no problem.  It is called being self-centered and narcissistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oneperson stated: &#8220;How is “I would be willing to bet you can live with the noise for one weekend and if you can’t, leave town, go to the mountains.” any less tolerant than, no I don’t want the noise so you can’t do it?&#8221;</p>
<p>The diffence is that it is not the one who is being asked to &#8220;leave town&#8221; that is doing the disturbing of the other.  He/she is disturbing no other person.  That is the difference.</p>
<p>Everyone &#8216;complains&#8217;, and way too much.  But that is usually only seen when it is not something &#8220;they&#8221; want.  When it is, from events to public works projects, be the latter a project in Fruita, Grand Junction, Delta, or Montrose, then &#8220;cost&#8221; is no problem.  It is called being self-centered and narcissistic.</p>
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		<title>By: warhorse</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/09/28/be-thankful-instead-of-whiny/#comment-14498</link>
		<dc:creator>warhorse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a little noisier than usually leading up to the show but I'm glad they came.  I wish they would make the air show a yearly event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a little noisier than usually leading up to the show but I&#8217;m glad they came.  I wish they would make the air show a yearly event.</p>
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		<title>By: golfdoc</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/09/28/be-thankful-instead-of-whiny/#comment-14497</link>
		<dc:creator>golfdoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/09/28/be-thankful-instead-of-whiny/#comment-14497</guid>
		<description>saw the blue angels this weekend, best event i've been to since juco this year.  thanks for coming, your skill is amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saw the blue angels this weekend, best event i&#8217;ve been to since juco this year.  thanks for coming, your skill is amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: FutureQuest</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/09/28/be-thankful-instead-of-whiny/#comment-14496</link>
		<dc:creator>FutureQuest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/09/28/be-thankful-instead-of-whiny/#comment-14496</guid>
		<description>Well, let me see.  Black Sunday hit Grand Junction May 2, 1982, when Exxon pulled the plug on its oil shale operations.  People left in droves and our economy shut down.  To recover, we actively marketed Grand Junction in other areas, especially to retirees who had money to buy homes and didn’t have school-age children, promoting our town and low home prices.  It worked – Grand Junction became one of the fastest growing cities in the U.S., our economy boomed (construction, health care, tourism, retail), and local home prices rose in spite of the downturn in the national housing markets.  As an added plus, many of the people attracted by these efforts turned out to be intelligent and successful people who brought diverse life experiences with them.  I am a home grown boy, and I say “welcome” to all the “transplants” who came to Grand Junction – we are glad to have you here and find you pleasant neighbors.  Please don’t mind the home grown cranks.  These people who tell other people to “go back where they came from” need to remember that they only own that part of Grand Junction that is their own personal property as shown by their property deeds – all of the rest belongs to all taxpayers equally, no matter how long they’ve been here.  What’s hypocritical about all this is that these same isolationists have children, grandchildren, relatives, and friends who have freely moved to Denver and even other states, where presumably they are accepted okay in those places.  And, most of us Grand Junction natives feel that we would have the right to move freely anywhere in the United States, if we wanted to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, let me see.  Black Sunday hit Grand Junction May 2, 1982, when Exxon pulled the plug on its oil shale operations.  People left in droves and our economy shut down.  To recover, we actively marketed Grand Junction in other areas, especially to retirees who had money to buy homes and didn’t have school-age children, promoting our town and low home prices.  It worked – Grand Junction became one of the fastest growing cities in the U.S., our economy boomed (construction, health care, tourism, retail), and local home prices rose in spite of the downturn in the national housing markets.  As an added plus, many of the people attracted by these efforts turned out to be intelligent and successful people who brought diverse life experiences with them.  I am a home grown boy, and I say “welcome” to all the “transplants” who came to Grand Junction – we are glad to have you here and find you pleasant neighbors.  Please don’t mind the home grown cranks.  These people who tell other people to “go back where they came from” need to remember that they only own that part of Grand Junction that is their own personal property as shown by their property deeds – all of the rest belongs to all taxpayers equally, no matter how long they’ve been here.  What’s hypocritical about all this is that these same isolationists have children, grandchildren, relatives, and friends who have freely moved to Denver and even other states, where presumably they are accepted okay in those places.  And, most of us Grand Junction natives feel that we would have the right to move freely anywhere in the United States, if we wanted to.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/09/28/be-thankful-instead-of-whiny/#comment-14494</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/09/28/be-thankful-instead-of-whiny/#comment-14494</guid>
		<description>I remember seeing a cartoon in an old Reader's Digest that showed the Pilgrims coming ashore with a couple of natives watching from the bushes. One of them says, "Aw, let 'em stay. What possible harm could they do?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember seeing a cartoon in an old Reader&#8217;s Digest that showed the Pilgrims coming ashore with a couple of natives watching from the bushes. One of them says, &#8220;Aw, let &#8216;em stay. What possible harm could they do?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Curmudgeon</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/09/28/be-thankful-instead-of-whiny/#comment-14493</link>
		<dc:creator>Curmudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/09/28/be-thankful-instead-of-whiny/#comment-14493</guid>
		<description>Of course, if there had been a sign at Plymouth Rock that said;

"GO BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM, AND TAKE YOUR GENOCIDE, ALCOHOL, AND SMALLPOX WITH YOU!"

I wonder where the "True Blue Born and Raised" folks would be, then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, if there had been a sign at Plymouth Rock that said;</p>
<p>&#8220;GO BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM, AND TAKE YOUR GENOCIDE, ALCOHOL, AND SMALLPOX WITH YOU!&#8221;</p>
<p>I wonder where the &#8220;True Blue Born and Raised&#8221; folks would be, then?</p>
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		<title>By: MiniVan_MacDaddy</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/09/28/be-thankful-instead-of-whiny/#comment-14492</link>
		<dc:creator>MiniVan_MacDaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/09/28/be-thankful-instead-of-whiny/#comment-14492</guid>
		<description>Scott;

I think you're right. There's no way Rexall would think that the Utes would support homegrowngirl's "go back where you came from" mentality unless it included the people who took their land. I mean, anything else would be just stupid, right?  

Right, Rexall?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott;</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re right. There&#8217;s no way Rexall would think that the Utes would support homegrowngirl&#8217;s &#8220;go back where you came from&#8221; mentality unless it included the people who took their land. I mean, anything else would be just stupid, right?  </p>
<p>Right, Rexall?</p>
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		<title>By: dc</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/09/28/be-thankful-instead-of-whiny/#comment-14491</link>
		<dc:creator>dc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/09/28/be-thankful-instead-of-whiny/#comment-14491</guid>
		<description>hgg appears to suffer from what I refer to as "door slammer syndrome". The sentiment is: "I'm here now so it's mine, and anyone I don't like has no right to be here."

My grandmothers' people suffered the same fate as the Utes. They occupied central and eastern Kentucky until they were driven out by settlers so their white kids could claim to be "True Blue Born and Raised".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hgg appears to suffer from what I refer to as &#8220;door slammer syndrome&#8221;. The sentiment is: &#8220;I&#8217;m here now so it&#8217;s mine, and anyone I don&#8217;t like has no right to be here.&#8221;</p>
<p>My grandmothers&#8217; people suffered the same fate as the Utes. They occupied central and eastern Kentucky until they were driven out by settlers so their white kids could claim to be &#8220;True Blue Born and Raised&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/09/28/be-thankful-instead-of-whiny/#comment-14490</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Rexall meant that the Utes would agree with the sentiment, but would include those that homegrowngirl calls the True Blue Born and Raised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Rexall meant that the Utes would agree with the sentiment, but would include those that homegrowngirl calls the True Blue Born and Raised.</p>
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