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	<title>Comments on: McCain tainted by association with Keating</title>
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		<title>By: skippy</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/09/28/mccain-tainted-by-association-with-keating/#comment-14474</link>
		<dc:creator>skippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 23:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this is a political weakness when why does Obama not exploit it?  Ever hear of Rev. Wright?  All of these folks have some skeleton in the closet some further back than others.  There was a discussion concerning Biden's charitable giving, or lack of it, in the Friday paper.  Sounds like he could play Scrooge in the next production of a Christmas Carol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this is a political weakness when why does Obama not exploit it?  Ever hear of Rev. Wright?  All of these folks have some skeleton in the closet some further back than others.  There was a discussion concerning Biden&#8217;s charitable giving, or lack of it, in the Friday paper.  Sounds like he could play Scrooge in the next production of a Christmas Carol.</p>
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		<title>By: RLaitres</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/09/28/mccain-tainted-by-association-with-keating/#comment-14458</link>
		<dc:creator>RLaitres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curmudgeon is correct in his assessment, but this is nothing new.  In fact, an entire industry has grown up around it.  It is called 'talk radio', something to which far too many have become addicted.  It is a a 'for profit' industry based mostly upon emotion alone, and most of their hosts are grossly ignorant as to issues and lacking in the intellectual maturity required to handle them intelligently.  Looking at some of their statements, several should probably be in jail for formenting hate, bigotry, civil unrest, etc.

A classic case is none other than the 'god' of the field for so many, Rush Limbaugh, and his "Operation Chaos".  He admitted, and publicly, that his objective was to cause civil unrest in Denver during the Democratic National Convention.  If that is the case, the individual is guilty of a crime.

Then we have none other than Bill O'reilly who, in referring to an issue before us, used the phrase that it was "threatening the white christian superstructure".  We can look at that and conclude that Mr. O'Reilly is therefort little more than a "white christian supremacist."

Finally, we look at the former icon of the same genre, Ann Coulter.  Her statement was that there was nothing 'wrong' with Jews, only that they had not yet been perfected.  That, by any standard, is saying nothing more than so-called "christians" are superior to Jews or, not as 'perfect' as 'christians'.  So, that made Ms. Coulter, by any standard, a supremacist.

Such tactics can only work with those who have neither the intellectual nor emotional maturity to be responsible citizens.  The have never bothered or made the effort to acquire either of them.  As a consequence, they are easily herded, and not led (being 'led' implies conscious choice), by the emotional nose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curmudgeon is correct in his assessment, but this is nothing new.  In fact, an entire industry has grown up around it.  It is called &#8216;talk radio&#8217;, something to which far too many have become addicted.  It is a a &#8216;for profit&#8217; industry based mostly upon emotion alone, and most of their hosts are grossly ignorant as to issues and lacking in the intellectual maturity required to handle them intelligently.  Looking at some of their statements, several should probably be in jail for formenting hate, bigotry, civil unrest, etc.</p>
<p>A classic case is none other than the &#8216;god&#8217; of the field for so many, Rush Limbaugh, and his &#8220;Operation Chaos&#8221;.  He admitted, and publicly, that his objective was to cause civil unrest in Denver during the Democratic National Convention.  If that is the case, the individual is guilty of a crime.</p>
<p>Then we have none other than Bill O&#8217;reilly who, in referring to an issue before us, used the phrase that it was &#8220;threatening the white christian superstructure&#8221;.  We can look at that and conclude that Mr. O&#8217;Reilly is therefort little more than a &#8220;white christian supremacist.&#8221;</p>
<p>Finally, we look at the former icon of the same genre, Ann Coulter.  Her statement was that there was nothing &#8216;wrong&#8217; with Jews, only that they had not yet been perfected.  That, by any standard, is saying nothing more than so-called &#8220;christians&#8221; are superior to Jews or, not as &#8216;perfect&#8217; as &#8216;christians&#8217;.  So, that made Ms. Coulter, by any standard, a supremacist.</p>
<p>Such tactics can only work with those who have neither the intellectual nor emotional maturity to be responsible citizens.  The have never bothered or made the effort to acquire either of them.  As a consequence, they are easily herded, and not led (being &#8216;led&#8217; implies conscious choice), by the emotional nose.</p>
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		<title>By: Curmudgeon</title>
		<link>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/09/28/mccain-tainted-by-association-with-keating/#comment-14455</link>
		<dc:creator>Curmudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://community.gjsentinel.com/2008/09/28/mccain-tainted-by-association-with-keating/#comment-14455</guid>
		<description>Great, here we go again...now, the Obama haters will dredge up his associates, and we'll spend another thread fighting about whose connections are more evil, or more 'radical'..

If anyone thinks McCain knew that Keating was going to destroy millions of people's lives when he went to bat for him, they're fools. 

If anyone thinks Obama is a closet "radical" or "America hater" because of his associations, they're fools as well. 
Politicians, by their nature, have to associate with all kinds of people. Some turn out to be worse than they'd like. 

But if you can't find any real malfeasance from either candidate, as I think is the case in this election, then you have to start widening the scope for attacks. 

And I know, partisans from both sides are going to get snide, because I just don't realize how bad the Other Guy is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great, here we go again&#8230;now, the Obama haters will dredge up his associates, and we&#8217;ll spend another thread fighting about whose connections are more evil, or more &#8216;radical&#8217;..</p>
<p>If anyone thinks McCain knew that Keating was going to destroy millions of people&#8217;s lives when he went to bat for him, they&#8217;re fools. </p>
<p>If anyone thinks Obama is a closet &#8220;radical&#8221; or &#8220;America hater&#8221; because of his associations, they&#8217;re fools as well.<br />
Politicians, by their nature, have to associate with all kinds of people. Some turn out to be worse than they&#8217;d like. </p>
<p>But if you can&#8217;t find any real malfeasance from either candidate, as I think is the case in this election, then you have to start widening the scope for attacks. </p>
<p>And I know, partisans from both sides are going to get snide, because I just don&#8217;t realize how bad the Other Guy is.</p>
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