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Bill McKnight is worried, especially about the mounting debt our government is wantonly charging to foreign shores. Judging from the honking I heard the other day from my backyard after the apply named “tea party,” I’d be willing to bet a lot of other people are worried too.
My only question is, what have y’all been doing for the last decade? I mean, President Obama has a dire financial situation and legitimate economic theory on his side, President Bush just wanted to cut taxes and go to war —
there just wasn’t really much of a game plan but more a sort of haphazard and reckless approach to government.
So I say this, you should criticize Obama as much and as often as you would like. But please remember, you still sold out a long time ago and for a lot less.
LANDON BAIN
Grand Junction
15 Responses to “Where has everyone been for the last decade?”
Posted April 28th, 2009 at 8:29 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
our out of control, lets build more debt congress started in the late 40s and early 50s, not just 10 years ago. i can remember us rep patty shroeder telling business’ that they caused the 80s to be known as the decade of greed, but so conviently forgot to mention that during the 80s congressional pay and benefits doubled.
Posted April 28th, 2009 at 9:12 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Mr. Bain is “on the mark” and is a question that I have brought up time after time. The poster festered, on the other hand, brings up what is really a not too significant question, at least to the subject at hand. And, if festered will recall the campaign for raising the pay for Congress and Senate was based upon the supposed the rationalization that it would “attract” the best people. And that was just as much an argument by the Republicans as anyone else. It is obvious that it did not. What it did attract was the “greedy” who wanted a large paycheck, and the perks that go along with such positions.
What I find interesting that those politicians in the Republican Party who complain most about the wastefulness of government always make sure that they “get their share” and that they and their relatives have government jobs. For examples of that we need go no further than the former Representative Scott McInnis and State Senator Josh Penry.
Recently I was part of a discussion group with five (5) government employees complaining about how bad government was in managing money. My statement to them was: “You complain about government spending, fine. But where are your own paychecks coming from? If you complain about government, you forget that YOU are the government and, that being the case, YOU are the problem.” Needless to say, they attempted to answer the charge with “Yes, but….”
The “Tea Parties” should best be known as “Teapot Tantrums.” And the letter writer is correct. Where were these people, not only for the last decade, but for most of their lives? They are the same people who were too busy enjoying “la dolce vita” and major contributors to “running up the debt.” They didn’t care, as long as no bill was presented. Now that one has come due, they whine and moan about the amount, and still dont’ want to pay. So, for many, not only are they condemning their own past actions but actually want to continue in neglect and denial of obligations and responsibilities. “Let others pay for it.”
Posted April 28th, 2009 at 9:41 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
I very rarely can tell what RLaitres advocates. What do you want to do? Anyhoo, I would agree with Festered that it has been way longer than ten years. I would say the last 100 years, since that is when the bureaucratic boondoggle started in earnest.
Posted April 28th, 2009 at 9:44 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Hey, I’m just glad this trillion dollars is being spent IN the US, rather than over seas.
Posted April 28th, 2009 at 10:45 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
david_cox: “I very rarely can tell what RLaitres advocates. What do you want to do?”
The first thing that “RLaitres” advocates is that many start doing some real thinking for themselves instead of just “believing” what they are “told to believe” by others, then wasting their time in efforts to rationalize those beliefs. And, if that requires that they begin studying and reading, probably for the first time in their lives, and not only what they agree with, but everything.
The real truth is, for those who bother to look, is that most measure almost everything with the standard of “what’s in it for me.” And that is no way to run anything, especially an entire country. Yet, many do exactly that. That is quite evident in many posts, even in this forum. There are appear to be way too many “pickled brains.” You want to have liberty and freedom, then unshackle your own brain from any ideology or belief that “I can’t be wrong.”
As to elected officials, it is those who place them in office that are responsible for their behavior, and that includes many in all political parties. The “problem” that we see in elected officials is because many of the voters who cast their ballots don’t take the time to think about what they are really being told.
Many approach the voting booth with no more thought than “I like”, “I feel” or some ideology. (Again, something they have been told). That is what a child or how some junior high or high school student would do, not any type of responsible adult.
Posted April 28th, 2009 at 4:43 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
It started with BUSH, and this is why: Clinton taxed and spent, Bush cut taxes, but still continued to spend, and then started a couple wars, and boom, budget crisis.
basically Bush bought the support of congress by refusing to have any discretion on their spending requests, and in return they let him do some really crazy, stupid stuff.
where else do we see this? Authoritarian states with little patience for human rights; they buy their people’s support, via gas subsidies, ect., and in return the people are reluctant to stand up to their authoritarian ways.
so, basically, Bush really should have been a Saudi prince or maybe an ayatollah. And all those fascist “Country First” yahoos should have been born in N. Korea.
Posted April 29th, 2009 at 10:51 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Here’s a fun look at the number sixty!
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/4/28/725477/-BWHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Posted April 29th, 2009 at 11:45 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
toa, thanks for your frequent reference to radical left publications. If it wasn’t for you, I would never know they existed.
Regarding Specter, I see his move to the Democratic party as a plus for Republicans. And I admit, I am the only one I know who believes that.
Arlen Specter is a middle of the road politician. And, frankly, I agree with many of his positions and disagree with others. He has been helpful to Democrats regarding Obama’s budget and there I find wide disagreement.
His switch to the Democratic party is unlikely to make much of a difference if he continues to vote his beliefs. For example, he will hopefully remain true to his pledge to vote against card check.
By running on the Democratic ticket in PA he will allow a more conventional Republican to run against him. And, hopefully, he will be defeated.
Also, by having 60 Democrats in the Senate, there will be no excuses when the liberal agenda is shown to be destructive to this country.
Posted April 29th, 2009 at 12:35 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
RL says, “The real truth is, for those who bother to look, is that most measure almost everything with the standard of “what’s in it for me.” And that is no way to run anything, especially an entire country. Yet, many do exactly that.”
The truth is that BO ran on a negative campaign against “the last 8 years” and offering money to people who pay no taxes in the first place. The centerpiece of his campaign site was a calculator for people to see how much more money they would get if they voted for BO.
Reality dictates that BO voters are now, to use your projected words, “the same people who were too busy enjoying (their potential) “la dolce vita” and (are now) major contributors to “running up the debt.” They didn’t (don’t) care, as long as they don’t pay taxes either way.
I’m personally due to benefit from BO’s “middle class tax cuts” and rebates. I’ve worked my whole life, paid my share of taxes, and never applied for government assistance of any kind. BO’s promise of tax cuts could not buy my vote.
I also wrote and called to voice opposition to the first TARP which was supported by both Democrats and Repubs.
Where were you, RL, then? Where are you, RL, now?
Other than sitting in the peanut gallery making things up about people you don’t really know….????
Posted April 29th, 2009 at 12:54 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
bf says, “toa, thanks for your frequent reference to radical left publications. If it wasn’t for you, I would never know they existed.”
Isn’t it “interesting” how RL ridicules every conservative or moderate publication as “unreliable” (usually without reading them) and accuses anyone who posts conservative references as unable to think for themselves. But he doesn’t seem to mind toa posting and parroting far-Left sources and expects us to believe whatever he himself makes up - with no supporting evidence whatsoever.
Perhaps he just assumes we actually CAN think for ourselves when it comes to the radical Left. Course, we can find them all here anyway:
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/group.asp
Posted April 29th, 2009 at 1:56 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
Sure, bullish, I know DKos is just another bogeyman for you dittoheads, so I really don’t expect you to click the link. It really must be hard to be a conservative these days–so many people and groups are out to get you!
Posted April 29th, 2009 at 2:03 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
For those who are amused by watching the GOP circle the drain:
“The Northeast Republican, nearly extinct”
http://www.dailykos.com/
Posted April 29th, 2009 at 3:30 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
Well, toa, I did click the link. How else would I know what it was?
As to it being hard to be a conservative these days, you would have to ask a conservative. You should understand that opposing a liberal agenda does not mean that one is a conservative. There is plenty of room between the two extremes.
Posted April 29th, 2009 at 3:51 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
Bunk. Torture supporters have “CONSERVATIVE” tattooed right on their foreheads. Nice try, though.
Posted April 29th, 2009 at 5:13 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
toa, I don’t consider the terms “liberal” or “conservative” dirty words. If I considered myself a conservative I would not deny it.
There are a number of issues such as national defense and economic policy where I side with conservatives. But there are a number of social issues where I side with liberals. So as hard as you may find it to believe, there are many issues where you and I would agree.
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