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First we have a “lone” terrorist attack result in the closure of a clinic, then another “lone” terrorist attacks the Holocaust Museum. I say “lone” because they have widespread support.
Peaceful demonstrations at the clinic are one thing, but to use terror to kill and shut down a hospital is another. Anyone who condones this, publicly or privately is a supporter of terrorism.
The same goes for the KKK/White supremacists. The KKK is a terrorist organization and has plenty of support.
What frightens me is here in the valley people seem to be rushing to arm themselves because a black president has been elected.
Seven billion rounds of ammo are sold a year. Wow, that’s a bullet for every man, woman and child on the planet and a few to spare, a year. Talk about a weapon of mass destruction.
Bring the troops home so they can fight the war on terror in the USA!
I support the closure of the Guantanamo Bay prison but I guess while it’s still open the doctor killer should be packed off there and waterboarded until he gives the names of all the other terrorists and his supporters who plan to attack other clinics and doctors’ offices.
DAVID LLOYD
Clifton
44 Responses to “Recent murders were acts of terrorism”
Posted June 11th, 2009 at 4:09 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
Did you forget the Army Private killed/ assassinated by the Muslim convert in Little Rock, Ark? Or have you not heard that from your “news” source?
Posted June 12th, 2009 at 1:23 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
hey david
how many late term abortions (where childrens/fetuses brains are sucked out of their skulls) were performed by the ‘abortion doctor’ before his life was aborted?
Posted June 12th, 2009 at 6:50 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
When we were young and said something improper or untoward, responsible adults around us told us to watch our mouth. For some, the real lesson was never learned and, now that they have moved into supposed adulthood and nobody is around to tell them to do do, they believe that they can say anything they want and whenever they want and with no consideration whatever of the possible impact of their words on others.
Post #2 by festered is a case in point. And, the individual, whatever he/she may say, and whatever denial he may utter, has apparently made the assassin of what he calls the “abortion doctor”, a hero. Such is what happens when zealotry enters the mind of an individual. That is seen in that little phrase “yes, but”.
Some are taken in by this type of rhetoric. Others of us are not.
When looking at such incidents, what we see are not only the acts of perpetrators but where and who, through their unjudicious use of language and “appeals to emotion” provided the motivation, fuel and rationalization for those prone to such acts of violence. Those, I would submit, are the ones truly responsible for the acts perpetrated.
To such individuals, and as an adult speaking to other adults, permit me to tell them the following: “Watch your mouth!”
Yes, you have the right to “speak”, but along with that “righ” is also the obligation to exercise that “right” responsibly, and that mandates that there be a full and realization and appreciation of the effect(s) of that speech. An intellectually and emotionally mature individual will recognize that obligation. It is those who are neither who will not.
Posted June 12th, 2009 at 7:05 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
so let me get this straight then RL, you’re calling aborting doctors “heros”. because after all do they not also assinate the unborn child/fetus?
Posted June 12th, 2009 at 7:05 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
excuse me that should be abortion doctors
Posted June 12th, 2009 at 8:06 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Four murders have received national attention in recent days. One by a white supremacist whako, one by a religious whako, and two by an islamist radical.
Looking back at murders committed in recent weeks, months, and years, it is murders committed by islamic radicals that outnumber those committed by any other group, by many thousands. It is islamic radicals committing terrorist acts, all over the word, every day of the week.
And yet, the letter writer, speaking on the topic of terror, chooses not to mention them.
Why is that?
He wants our toops to come back from Afghanistan to fight the terrorist activities of right wing suppremacists and religious whakos. He wants to close Guantanamo.
Does he think that radical islamic terrorism is of no concern?
Posted June 12th, 2009 at 10:03 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
festered: “so let me get this straight then RL, you’re calling aborting doctors “heros”. because after all do they not also assinate the unborn child/fetus?”
Here we go, attempting to “change the subject” once again. Now, either the individual does not understand the English language or, for emotional reasons, blocks what was actually said. Such people, I might suggest, might do well to pay less heed to the end of a fetal brain, and far more considering if they have perhaps allowed their own grey matter to atrophy and die and thus, having “killed it” themselves.
Posted June 12th, 2009 at 10:59 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Topical:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/11/AR2009061103038.html
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/6/12/741531/-Eugene-Robinson-is-a-must-read-today
Posted June 12th, 2009 at 11:47 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
RL says, “Yes, you have the right to “speak”, but along with that “right” is also the obligation to exercise that “right” responsibly, and that mandates that there be a full and realization and appreciation of the effect(s) of that speech. An intellectually and emotionally mature individual will recognize that obligation. It is those who are neither who will not.”
Please pass that same advice along to Nancy Pelosi and the rest of her far-left cronies in Congress who are ignoring pleas from US military commanders in the field, and even Obama himself, to block the ACLU’s request to release more inflammatory photos of abuses of Islamic terrorists. As if we didn’t learn from the Abu Graib photos that enemies of America will use them to inflame the entire Muslim world against our troops as well as against innocent US civilians providing humanitarian aid in war zones. The photos reveal nothing new about a practice that was discontinued years ago and has now been forbid by Executive order.
No one (except maybe a few extremist nut-jobs) has ‘encouraged’ the killing of Tiller any more than a few nut-jobs on the extreme left have incited violence towards almost anyone in the public eye who holds conservative views. Not to mention it’s a convenient excuse for the mainstream left (including mainstream media) to continue to demonize and attempt to silence anyone who disagrees with their views. Anyone who hasn’t picked up on the Left’s participation and approval of hateful rhetoric towards anyone who disagrees with them is blind.
Case in point, the merciless hate-filled attacks on Sarah Palin and her family from the time she arrived on the national stage and continuing even now with Letterman’s hateful remarks about her “slutty” wardrobe, and he daughter being “knocked up” by A-rod. Case in point, garafalo’s calling conservative protesters “racist”, and all the other hateful remarks from the Left, when in fact the protests were about reducing government spending.
But the most glaringly appalling hypocrisy from the hate-mongering left-wing media is the absence of reporting on the assassination of Pvt. Long., — killed in the line of duty, on American soil, by a recently converted, self-avowed Islamic Jihadist. Hardly a mention in the MSM, nor any statement from the WH about the first terrorist attack on US soil since 9-11.
If the Left is so worried about the influence of hate-mongering then they’d better take a close look at the spread of radical Islam in our own prisons:
“For years, the Washington-based Center for Security Policy has been tracking the infiltration of U.S. prisons by agents of Saudi Wahhabism. Wahhabism is a radical Islamist interpretation of the Quran and the Hadith (its commentaries) upon which the ideologies of Hamas, the Moslem Brotherhood, Islamic Jihad and al Qaeda are based. The Center’s research (now confirmed by subsequent Senate investigations) has concluded that Muslim chaplains trained in and certified by Saudi-supported Wahhabi institutes in America have been accepted into our prison system by the Federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP). This has led to fears that a dangerous Islamic “fifth column” is developing in our prisons with the unwitting cooperation of the federal government.”
http://www.jfednepa.org/mark%20silverberg/wahhabi_america.html
And if the Left is so worried about the influence of hateful rhetoric, then they’d also better take a closer look at the Black Liberation Theology still preached in BO’s ‘former’ church in Chicago and it’s pastor Rev. Wright, BO’s spiritual mentor for 20 yrs. He’s the paranoid, racist “minister” who claimed the US injected blacks with the AID’s virus, regularly spews hate towards “whitey”, and just recently said,
“Them Jews aren’t going to let him talk to me. I told my baby daughter, that he’ll talk to me in five years when he’s a lame duck, or in eight years when he’s out of office,” Wright said, according to Virginia’s Daily Press. “They will not let him … talk to somebody who calls a spade what it is.”
And of course, don’t forget Rev. Wright’ (BO’s spiritual mentor for 20 yrs.) pro-Hamas (a terrorist organization) church bulletins filled with Hamas-written propaganda and the fact that he bestowed a Lifetime Achievement Award upon the anti-semite Loius Farrakhan who’s spent the last 30+ years spewing anti-Israel and anti-semitic rhetoric.
Sorry RL, but if you want to “blame” someone else besides the insane shooters in this spate of hate killings, look both ways and up.
Posted June 12th, 2009 at 12:10 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
Very well said JMH.
I can only imagine how the left leaning media would have reacted to Letterman’s sick jokes if they had been directed against a liberal. There is no doubt in my mind he would be out of work today.
As far as the Reverend Wright is concerned, his repeated and highly offensive antisemitic, anti-American, and racist preachings, to this day, makes you wonder how it is possibble for Obama to hold him in such high esteem for 20 years……………Unless he simpathized in part or in whole with those preachings.
Posted June 12th, 2009 at 4:47 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
I resent that remark.
Just so you will understand:
- Acts of violence against the far left is “terrorism”.
- Acts of violence against the military, police, firefighters, etc. are “incidents”.
Any questions?
Posted June 12th, 2009 at 5:15 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
“Acts of violence against the military, police, firefighters, etc. are “incidents”.”
And sometimes it’s known as self defense.
Posted June 12th, 2009 at 6:08 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
You are getting it! Private Long was killed in an incident that involved “self defense”!
Posted June 12th, 2009 at 6:58 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
Our FDNY bros were also part of the conspiracy, working for “da Man”.
Posted June 12th, 2009 at 7:49 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
Bull “I can only imagine how the left leaning media would have reacted to Letterman’s sick jokes if they had been directed against a liberal. There is no doubt in my mind he would be out of work today.”
Out of work. Ah yes. Just like the left leaning media who fired Bill Maher.
Brilliant. And so dispassionate.
Take my advise. Don’t watch TV or listen to ANY radio. Every single one of them is out to make a profit, even PBS and NPR, and you know what that means.
They all feed and controversy and hate, and as long as you lap it up, they’ll dish it out.
And there will be many more assisinations in museums and churches and military recruiter offices.
Posted June 12th, 2009 at 8:06 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
“Out of work. Ah yes. Just like the left leaning media who fired Bill Maher.
Brilliant. And so dispassionate.”
Mr. Maher is spewing his left wing agenda on HBO.
Posted June 13th, 2009 at 10:00 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
What is totally fascinating in these strings is how they quickly descend into such things as a plea for nothing more than “greater whining rights”, while totally ignoring a central issue. That indicates a level of maturity which would not be tolerated by any responsible parent in the behavior of their own children.
I have to wonder if such individuals have ever (except in their limited vocation) learned to think logically and rationally, or if they have ever tried to do so. Perhaps they are the very essence and true representatives of the “ME” generation who measure everything by “What’s in it for me”, their being the center of the universe, recognizing no obligation to responsibilities but to themselves. It certainly would appear to be the case.
Posted June 13th, 2009 at 10:30 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
RLaitres, do you have a life? And you are soooo good with words but lacking in maturity yourself. The true “me generation” are all young voting liberals now. They only serve themselves and want the rest of us to pay for their problems..
Posted June 13th, 2009 at 12:30 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
GEP, You must be new here. What you see is what you get.
This is a major part of RL’s life, just wait and see how long it takes him to reply, or how many days go by without some of his “wisdom” being posted.
He has kind of weird habit of referring to himself in the third person, kind of Queen Victoria.
Posted June 13th, 2009 at 2:52 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
Rv. Wrigjt: “You must be new here. What you see is what you get.”
Unfortunately that is true and ‘Rv. “I can’t be wrong” is a classic example of such. That poster is a prime example of someone who is unable to consider anything presented that does not conform to, or support his/her assumptions. While that is a “personal choice”, it also denotes an individual who is, and represents what is known as a “true believer.” What such people do not realize is that they do not only believe they are “right”, but go even further and end up believing themselves “infallible”, the very foundation of totalitrarianism, amongst other less than stellar attributes.
Some might take offense at the purely reactionay response of such individuals. But, some of us are not so easily “offended” or intimidated into silence. And, when we do reply to what can only be characterized “intellectual static” it is not for their sake or ours that we do. It is for the sake of those whose minds are not yet encapsulated in dogmatism, and still have the opportunity to escape the trap characterizexd by an individual who has not only surrendered independent thought, but actually turned his/her entire system of beliefs over to someone else.
Posted June 13th, 2009 at 4:42 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
GEP, 2:22. See what I mean?
Posted June 15th, 2009 at 8:06 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Not new, just want to read RLaitres ranting again. when my blood pressure is low, I read his comments.
Posted June 15th, 2009 at 6:54 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
And some believe I should be offended by what my “fans” jave to say. Perish that thought as they are too far easily manipulated into emotional retorts of the most extremist kind, something that is all to evident to those who do have a comprehension of the English language, and understand what they are really saying, recognize that most of their responses boil down to one thing “How dare you disagree with me.” So, it is never the issues that are under discussion, it is their personal beliefs, all too often based on misinformation which they have been fed and believed, for no other reason than they want to. They even have their own vocabulary, not defined or used logically or rationally, but emotionally. When looking at such practice, we have to wonder if that is how they defined their terms in their occupations. For all of our sakes, I certainly hope not.
Taking a panoramic view of these supposed discources where every term used, such as liberal, conservative, right, left, etc. continue to be repeated (although not understood by those who make the most liberal use of them), what is is clearly emerging is that the real conflict is not between either liberalism or conservatism, left or righ, or Republican or Democrat, the real conflict is between materialism (really having to do with a lust for money and power) and humanism, based upon a belief in the inherent dignity of the individual, and for no other reason than he/she is a human being.
Posted June 18th, 2009 at 6:33 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Rv. Wright: I must have crossed the line with that last post.
Literacy or independent thinking do not appear to be a strong suit in many. Rather, “believing” is their strong suit. It is so much easier, requiring little if any effort, being told what to believe is and believing is so much easier. To invite someone to consider anything beyond what they already know (or believe they know) is considered a capital offense by many.
Posted June 18th, 2009 at 8:33 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Keep watching M*A*S*H, you may get it eventually, but I doubt it.
Posted June 18th, 2009 at 12:46 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
I love RLaitres, he’s so comical. Can anyone understand a damn thing he’s saying? Oops, I just implicated myself of not being sufficiently intellectual to fathom the depth and magnitude of his unparalleled knowledge of the universe. Please teach me O GREAT ONE! I wish to be your disciple.
Posted June 18th, 2009 at 1:01 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
The fact that people are arming themselves nationwide has little, if anything at all, to do with the color of Obama’s skin. The mass move toward arming ourselves has to do with his voting record with regard to the 2nd amendment and statements regarding fire arms. He openly supports reinstating the “assault” weapons ban. It dumbfounds me to hear someone openly invite our troops home to “fight the war on terror” here. Obviously he thinks that armed people who oppose abortion should be the next “terrorists” to be put down. Saddening. Doesn’t this person see the obvious parallel between calling for violence against citizens he disagrees with here and the call for violence against doctors others disagree with over there? He is who he hates. Poor David, you do a disservice to the good reputation of David’s everywhere.
Posted June 18th, 2009 at 2:04 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
david_cox: “Please teach me O GREAT ONE! I wish to be your disciple.”
Sorry, there are no openings as the “GREAT ONE”
Posted June 18th, 2009 at 2:14 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
To continue: “the GREAT ONE” neither wants disciples nor sycophants. If those wishing such positions are “adults”, that means that they are either “weak willed” or do not want to do their own thinking. It may be too hard.
Cox: “Can anyone understand a damn thing he’s saying?”
Well, those who cannot understand may not have the background to do so. If they knew just a tad more about history and philsophy, instead merely in knowing that they exist, they might understand what others are talking about. Of course, in order to acquire that knowledge, that may require some personal effort instead of merely being “told.” From the feedback received thus far, there is certainly no expectation (at least on my part) that such will happen, certainly not from individuals whose entire thinking process and existence are bounded by the four (4) M. “Me, “Mine”, “My”, and most important of all “Money.”
Posted June 18th, 2009 at 2:21 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
david_cox: “The mass move toward arming ourselves has to do with his voting record with regard to the 2nd amendment and statements regarding fire arms.”
Actually, the real reason that they are arming themselves is that they suffer from paranoia and fear. Everyone is “out to get them”, be it the government, some foreign power, or even their neighbor. And,those who succumb to such a thing as “fear” are probably the most gullible of all,and are all to easily manipulated. Referring to the incidents of almost 9 years ago, they relive it almost every day. They are actuall “terrorist success stories.”
While some are Polyannas’ in their thinking, other hold a Cassandra type of mentality.
Posted June 18th, 2009 at 2:52 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
david_cox says: “I love RLaitres, he’s so comical. Can anyone understand a damn thing he’s saying?”
To those who don’t understand MESL-RL (Metaphysical English as a Second Language, according to RL), allow me to translate his esoteric world view. [Warning: sarcasm & irony ahead]
RL says, “the real conflict is between materialism (really having to do with a lust for money and power) and humanism, based upon a belief in the inherent dignity of the individual, and for no other reason than he/she is a human being”
He’s right.
Case in point:
Way back when, Humanists in High Places with Power cared so little about the material world (aka the economy) that they advocated Humanistic Home Ownership (aka sub-prime Mortgages) to improve the liquid dignity (aka materialistic humanism) not inherent in renting “affordable housing”. And those Humanists with Power convinced those awful materialistic institutions (called Banks) to spread the dignity around and do away with that silly materialistic thing called a ‘down payment’ so that more people who didn’t have enough lust for money could have more inherent dignity - even though some didn’t have enough lust for money to pay back those humanistic money-free mortgages. Those awful materialistic Banks provided so much liquid dignity to those without enough lust for money that those awful materialistic banks started running out of humanistic cash. So Banks just said - what the heck, everybody has the inherent dignity to own their own home and it’ll be OK ‘cuz we can just sell those money-free, humanistic mortgages to Fannie and Freddie. But the next time someone else lusts after a loan, we’ll just have to tell them that their inherent dignity has to do - or to take it up with the Humanists with Power in charge of Money on the Senate Finance Committee. Everything will turn out just peachy - even if we don’t get paid back, we’ll still have our inherent dignity, having doled out all our liquid dignity. The Humanists with Power & Money will cover our cash-free, materialistic butts with humanistic pleadings that Fannie and Freddie were solvent, and that we needed to pour even more liquid dignity into Humanistic Home Ownership. Then just extract more taxes (aka sharing the dignity) from those who lust after more than $250K a year to cover our humanistic lust for the power to supply liquid dignity to all.
Ain’t it grand that our elected Humanists with Power & our Money don’t care about the material world (aka the economy) and have such a grand plan to redistribute wealth….ooops….redistribute liquid inherent dignity. It’s always worked out so well… right?
/end totally sarcastic but truly ironic reality/
Posted June 18th, 2009 at 3:31 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
LOL
Posted June 18th, 2009 at 3:34 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
JMH: “Metaphysical English as a Second Language”
Huh? Have never heard the phrase “metaphysical English” previously? Wonder if the individual understands the term and would care to explain it to us. Is he saying speaking of the discussion of metaphysical things in English or something else entirely? Actually, those who understand the English language know that there can be no such things as “metaphysical English.” That would mean “English” beyond and above “English” which, for those who do understand the language cannot be, as it is impossible for a thing to be beyond itself or other than itself. Or, perhaps JMH has discovered some new branch of philosophy that the less informed among us have not yet become aware of.
Let us just begin with that one, then we can proceed onward to the other “twists” and “turns” of the ensuing paragraph.
GEP: “..when my blood pressure is low, I read his comments.”
If the individual’s blood pressure is too high, there are medications for that conditions. And, if the “blood pressure” is affected by the words or ideas of another maybe, just maybe, the individual is attempting to “think” with the wrong part of his/her anatomy; the “wrong end of the stick”, so to speak.
Posted June 18th, 2009 at 3:41 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
RL said, “Actually, the real reason that they are arming themselves is that they suffer from paranoia and fear. Everyone is “out to get them”, be it the government, some foreign power, or even their neighbor.”
You’re right RL, we don’t have to worry about people “out to get” us, these individuals are figments of the imagination, the dark foreboding in a bunch of mindless children looking for a benevolent father (RL). We should just imagine a beautiful place where everyone acts with respect to others and suddenly we’ll all wake up and see that it was here the whole time, just beyond the horizon of our fear and disbelief. Uh huh. Yup.
RL for President, we can give away all our nuclear weapons to the needy Taliban militants while simultaneously disbanding that institution of paranoia, the military, as we skip through the daisys and whistle mary had a little lamb.
Posted June 18th, 2009 at 3:43 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
Bailouts ALL AROUND!
Posted June 18th, 2009 at 5:14 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
JMH: Post #31 is a great LOL parody. Good job
Posted June 18th, 2009 at 8:07 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
Dana: “JMH: Post #31 is a great LOL parody. Good job”
And a good indication of a complete reactionary. Far from addressing any issue, such individuals get their “button pushed” and react like a cat that gets it’s tail stepped on. Panic city all over the place! Such individuals are really nothing to laugh about or with. They ae but to be pitied. The product of a wasted mind.
Posted June 18th, 2009 at 8:58 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
The voice of first-hand knowledge.
Posted June 19th, 2009 at 7:28 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
There is an individual on this site who accuses other posters of not addressing issues. He accuses them of being ignorant. He accuses them of being reactionary. He accuses them of being “unthinking”. He accuses them of being interested in only one thing: MONEY.
This individual writes in a pompous style. Some say they they cannot understand what he is talking about. There are two reasons the individual writes the way he does. First, because he is arrogant. Second, because he refuses to get pinned down.
He seldom addresses the issues under discussion. He seldom gives his own opinion on any factual issues. He chooses, instead, to point to certain books or certain authors but never, EVER, writes what it is in his references that he believes to be true.
When he accuses others of not understanding certain terms, he, himself will NEVER, EVER, give his definition or understanding of those terms. This is often seen when anyone here dares to use terms such as liberal. socialist. communist, fascist, etc. You can be assured that if you ever include any of these terms in a posting, AND, you are not on his side of the political spectrum, he will be there with a rebuttal calling you ignorant.
He has no desire to engage in discussions that deal with the subject matter. He has two primary reasons for being here. First, to display his arrogance. Seoond, to demean anyone who does not agree with his extreme left political views.
This individual takes up a lot of space on this site. But little of it is devoted to addressing the topics being discussed.
Posted June 19th, 2009 at 8:29 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
We must all express appreciation for the in depth analysis provided of the is “horrendous” individual. However, the other side of the coin are those who, for whatever reason, use terms they obviously have never taken the opportunity to learn or understand and, when directed to authoritative sources that would provide them with a real meaning, noy a subjective one (by those who have studied the field) fail to do so. They would rather stick with with their own designer definitions as it suits their purposes.
Naturally, this “arrogant” individual cannot possibly understand anything and “must be wrong”, but usually because those who would critique him/her cannot be, for they are infallible.
As to the issue of the “materialism” and “money” being the real “god” of many (god being defined as what is most important in an individual’s existence) that has been observed and known for a very long time. Naturally, those who are not aware or conversant with that phenomenon cannot possibly recognize it, never mind admit to it.
But we will all be on the alert for this “arrogant” and terrible individual who would lead us into temptation and error. Such individuals should always be identified and, if he/she cannot be destroyed intellectually, he probably needs to be destroyed physically for he is as was Socrates accused of, corrupting our morals and our youth, both being offensive to the “gods.”
What say you? Perhaps we should turn his identity over to those wise men and preachers who can properly condemn him/her and rail against his/her offenses from every dais and pulpit in the land such that he may go the way of that former character from Kansas, Dr. Tiller. And, in that way, we can stop corrupting the “purity” of our dogmatic beliefs. How dare he/she take up our time and use up so much space on this board!! I, for one will certainly be on the lookout for the individual.
Posted June 19th, 2009 at 8:34 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Post #40 is just beautiful. I will let that one stand without comment.
Posted June 19th, 2009 at 9:45 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
That is apparently not possible. Now that it has been pointed out that such an individual exists. The individual in question, as has been previously pointed out, is committing a cardinal offense. Apparently he is reading books by himself, unsupervised, and not previously interpreted for him. Now, that has to be a horrible “crime.” Perhaps the creator of post #41 would care to identify him so that we can take his/her books away, or at least provide him/her with a list of books previously approved by some higher authority, be that secular or religious. Perhaps he/she does not know that is “approved reading.” The individual should, at the very least, be provided the opportunity to correct his/her ways to conform to our standards. And we know that we can’t be wrong. Maybe we should do that, being good and caring people, prior to hauling him/her before our local Sanhedrin and handing him/her a cup of hemlock.
Posted June 19th, 2009 at 10:38 am Login to Send PM Report this comment
Well, I wasn’t going to get into a back and forth with Laitres that, will in all probabilty, push the Sentinel editor into erasing all posts. But, apparently, that is what Laitres wants. So while I am only going to be around here until noon today, let’s continue for as long as time permits.
Laitres: “The individual in question, as has been previously pointed out, is committing a cardinal offense. Apparently he is reading books by himself, unsupervised, and not previously interpreted for him. Now, that has to be a horrible “crime.””
No Laitres, reading books, unsupervised, is not a crime. And the word crime was never used by me. What you do here is to refer posters to books without ever indicating what the books say that is relevant to the discussion. You do so because you are scared to death of giving your own opinion which you may then have to defend. We know this because on the few occasions when you inadvertantly gave an opinion, which was later challenged, you ran.
One, therefore, never knows, whether you have a scintilla of reading comprehension and know what the recommend books have to say. Further, you are arrogant enough to believe that simply by giving posters a reading list that they will believe your comments are worth anything.
Laitres: “Perhaps the creator of post #41 would care to identify him so that we can take his/her books away, or at least provide him/her with a list of books previously approved by some higher authority, be that secular or religious.”
Perhaps you, Laitres, if you had any interest in participating in a discussion, and were not afraid to be pinned down, would give your opinion on the subject matter and THEN refer, in you post, to a source, such as a book, that backs up your statements. And to make others believe that you have some inkling as to what that book says, and why it should be read by others, you would provide such information in your post.
What you do instead is say the poster is ignorant and if he read such and such a book, he would find out why he is ignorant.
Laitres: “The individual should, at the very least, be provided the opportunity to correct his/her ways to conform to our standards.”
I just did, knowing that it is a waste of time.
Posted June 19th, 2009 at 1:02 pm Login to Send PM Report this comment
Now, this is too much! Does Laitres expect us to “read” also? Now, that individual is being totally unreasonable. What does that individual believe Cliff’s Notes are for.
Apparently the individual has never learned that entire books are not meant to be read, but to line shelves used as a backdrop, to collect dust and/or to use as a paperweight. This is serious and hopefully the readers of these posts will bear with me while, utilizing the full power of the English language at my command (a version which should be easily understood by some of our “modernly schooled individuals), I compose a serious rebuke to that individual. Letting that individual run amok on this board, or any other, might serve to destabilize and be injurious to the “state”, never mind taking us away from service to, and adulation of our “god$” We, the anointed one$ are certainly not prepared to tolerate that, no matter how filled our heart$ are filled with “love of our neighbor”, and despite it going against our greates fault, our all-consuming humility.
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